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Have You Seen The Sign At Patriots' Park?

Some residents say the sign is new, but DEM claims the sign has been there all along.

Several Portsmouth residents are questioning a sign they say they first noticed at Patriot's Park this past weekend. 

A few residents and even an elected, town official questioned the sign at , which in bright red lettering states the park is closed from sunset to sunrise. The park is property of the Department of Environmental Management.

Some questioned if the sign was posted as a reaction to the . However, a DEM spokesperson says the sign has been at the park for some time. 

"That sign has always been there," said Gail Mastrati, spokesperson for DEM. 

Occupy Portsmouth, despite not showing at any scheduled protests to date, is supposed to hold on Tuesday.

What do you the sign at Patriots' Park? Do you think it's a reaction to Occupy Portsmouth? Tell us in the comment section below! 

Average Joe April 03, 2012 at 01:21 PM
Why is this such a big deal? If the DEM owns this land, then they can put up a sign whenever they like. Now if the closure times are not standard DEM policy, then there may be something fishy going on.
Jon Sisson April 03, 2012 at 02:16 PM
I'm with Joe. Whoever manages the land can put up a sign. Maybe they made it more visible since the occupy thing started but hey, I'd probably do the same. ;)
TAMORI April 03, 2012 at 02:25 PM
Sure, if it’s DEM property they can put the sign up if they want/need. But why are they being deceptive about it and saying that “That sign has always been there”? Look at the pictures of it. It’s brand new and not weathered at all.
Jon Sisson April 03, 2012 at 02:45 PM
True. They shouldn't have answered at all. They don't really have an obligation to do so from what I understand.
Unbelievable April 03, 2012 at 03:21 PM
There has always been a sign there as is posted at every other state park.
Mark Wyman April 03, 2012 at 05:11 PM
Did DEM get permission from the Newport NAACP to put up a sign in their park. This is sacred ground and the state should not be desecrating it with signs.
Mark Wyman April 03, 2012 at 05:16 PM
Yes everyone know the Government has no obligation to answer to the people. I guess you never heard of the freedom of information act?
Mark Wyman April 03, 2012 at 05:18 PM
DEM does not own the land the people of Rhode Island own the land the DEM just maintains for the poeple.
Jon Sisson April 03, 2012 at 06:14 PM
Then the article is misinformed, as I read it was property of the DEM. In any case, a sign posted with either times you can be there or no trespassing notifications are no harm to anyone. Maybe they just don't want to have to clean up after people's crap left behind or they don't want to have to deal with lawsuits for whatever reason. Either way, I look at it the same way as store hours being posted. For everyone's convenience. :)
Peggy April 03, 2012 at 07:18 PM
I stopped and looked at the sign this afternoon. There may have been a similar sign on the property before..But THIS particular sign is brand new and has never been rained on. The plywood is NEW and is not weathered (gray) at all.. The hardware holding it together is bright and shiny NEW. BTW: The message is spelled out in English, as well as THREE other lanquages.
Charles Levesque April 03, 2012 at 08:19 PM
All, A great many people worked very hard to create a appropriate memorial to the sacrifice of the "black regiment", black men who fought in the War for independence, who were patriots before there was a country, many of whom, and their progeny, never were granted the liberty they fought so bravely for. If you have a better term than "sacred ground", I would be pleased to hear it; however, sacred ground works for me. Charles Levesque
Mark Wyman April 03, 2012 at 08:30 PM
Many American Patriots gave their lives on Iehigh Hill in the Battle of Rhode Island on this "sacred ground" and nobody said a word when Carnegie Abbey desecrated it by building a golf corse on it. This is historic ground, the only battle fought in Rhode Island during the Revolution and it is now posted No Trespassing. Where is the outrage on this.
Charles Levesque April 03, 2012 at 09:27 PM
The Shill, here is an apple; here is an orange; any questions? A community of citizens came together to recognized the sacrifice of a particular group who had not been recognized and had not shared in the blessings that the war bestowed. Those people consider the ground sacred, and this is fit and proper. They did not ask more than a small patch that was not being otherwised used, and they have created a beautiful memorial and maintained it well. Chuck Levesque
East side April 04, 2012 at 12:16 AM
Good came out of this - exposure to this memorial, park, and its beauty. Now should the invisible Occupy Portsmouth use this spot, I would believe there are many other locations they could use (if they exist).
Mark Wyman April 04, 2012 at 01:19 AM
Hey Chuck how about a little history lesson "In 1778, when Rhode Island was having difficulties recruiting enough white men to meet the troop quotas set by the Continental Congress, the Rhode Island Assembly decided to pursue a suggestion made by General Varnum and enlist slaves in 1st Rhode Island Regiment. Varnum had raised the idea in a letter to George Washington, who forwarded the letter to the governor of Rhode Island without explicitly approving or disapproving of the plan.[1] On the 14th of February 1778, the Rhode Island Assembly voted to allow the enlistment of "every able-bodied negro, mulatto, or Indian man slave" that chose to do so, and that "every slave so enlisting shall, upon his passing muster before Colonel Christopher Greene, be immediately discharged from the service of his master or mistress, and be absolutely free...." The owners of slaves who enlisted were to be compensated by the Assembly in an amount equal to the market value of the slave.
Mark Wyman April 04, 2012 at 01:22 AM
A total of 88 slaves enlisted in the regiment over the next four months, as well as some free blacks. The regiment eventually totaled about 225 men; probably fewer than 140 of these were African Americans. The 1st Rhode Island Regiment became the only regiment of the Continental Army to have segregated companies of black soldiers. (Other regiments that allowed blacks to enlist were integrated.) The enlistment of slaves had been controversial, and after June 1778, no more non-whites were enlisted. The unit continued to be known as the "Black Regiment" even though only whites were thereafter recruited into the regiment to replace losses, a process which eventually made the regiment an integrated unit. Under Colonel Greene, the regiment fought in the Battle of Rhode Island in August 1778. The regiment played a fairly minor—but praised—role in the battle, suffering three killed, nine wounded, and eleven missing. Like most of the Main Army, the regiment saw little action over the next few years, since the focus of the war had shifted to the south. In 1781, Greene and several of his black soldiers were killed in a skirmish with Loyalists. Greene's body was mutilated by the Loyalists, apparently as punishment for having led black soldiers against them." I guess it's not apples ang oranges just apples. This was not an all black regiment but both black and white so everyboby should be able to use this park.
Charles Levesque April 04, 2012 at 02:45 AM
Shill, First, when you "borrow" an article from a source you should credit it, so people do not think it your own. Your comment above is entirely from Wikepedia, a source I use but do not rely solely upon. I am going to copy a portion of an article I found on US War.net, though I am not vouching entirely for its accuracy. "The British tried to turn their right wing in the morning, when Greene, commanding it, changed front, assailed the pursuers vigorously, and drove them to their strong defence on Quaker Hill. A general engagement ensued, when the British line was broken and driven back in confusion to Turkey Hill. The day was very sultry, and many perished by the heat. The action ended at near 3:00 P.M., but a sluggish cannonade was kept up until sunset. In this engagement the Americans lost about 200 men, and 260 British men. The 1st Rhode Island, the first black regiment in America’s history, took part in the action. Located on the right (west) side of the American line, they defended their part of the hill against fierce attacks by German troops. Numbering 400 men, the First Rhode Island acquitted itself well, repulsing three separate and distinct charges from 1,500 Hessians under Count Donop. They beat them back with such tremendous loss that Count Donop at once applied for an exchange, fearing that his men would kill him if he went into battle with them again, for having exposed them to such slaughter. Charles Levesque
Joe Sousa. April 04, 2012 at 10:06 AM
Since Occupy Portsmouth is a fictitious organization, they wont be occupying any parks. All of the parks, and boat ramps I see around the state close at dusk. The Shill should really check his sources .
Rev. Shaw Moore April 04, 2012 at 03:23 PM
I will say this for the Portsmouth Occupy movement. To date they have been the cleanest, least violent iteration of the Occupy Movement. No rapes, assaults, murders, drug trafficking or prostitution. Their chosen meeting site remains pristine as it was before the movement began. This of course is because the Portsmouth occupiers have yet to actually show up and do any occupying. Once they actually "occupy" all bets are off.
Mark Wyman April 04, 2012 at 07:08 PM
Joe nobody is saying all state parks do not close at dusk what we want to know is why is the state lying to people about putting up a new sign.
Mark Wyman April 04, 2012 at 07:15 PM
For a revrend you have a very negative attatude what internet site did you buy your ordination from?
Mark Wyman April 04, 2012 at 07:24 PM
Cuhck the real issue here is that this is public land and the occupy group has the Constutional right to use it no matter what group hold the land sacred. I would fight to support the right of the KKK if they wanted to used this park no matter how reprehensible I may find their group. The U.S. Constitution applies to all no matter what they may stand for. If you take away the rights of any group then the Constitution looses all meaning. Joe Sousa and I disagree on probability 90% of issues and we may argue and call each other names but I would fight for Joe's rights if someone tried to take them away. No group can tell another group who can use a public park.
Tracey H April 04, 2012 at 08:47 PM
Thank You Reverend for guiding us in our endeavors.
Rev. Shaw Moore April 05, 2012 at 02:38 AM
Have you not heard of the Beaumont Tabernacle Church of the Redeemer Bible School (online) where if nothing else we are taught to spell Reverend with reverence and correct letter placement? It was there that my lovely daughter Ariel would tell me how she got such a kick out of working up my sermons for Sunday worship.
Mark Wyman April 05, 2012 at 03:37 AM
Sorry never heard of it. Why should I treat you with reverence you are aservent of God, not God himself. You might want to go back to that bible school because you have a lot to learn about the teachings of Jesus Christ. Christ taught us not to judge others and to treat all with love. You don't sound too loving when it comes to OWS.
Mark Wyman April 05, 2012 at 03:43 AM
Just did a Google search of Beaumont Tabernacle Church of the Redeemer Bible School turned up nothing are you sure this is not something you just made up to call yourself reverend.
Rev. Shaw Moore April 05, 2012 at 09:53 PM
Now see, I looked up "Shill" and I did find something. "A shill, plant or stooge is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that he or she has a close relationship with that person or organization." Is it accurate?
Mark Wyman April 05, 2012 at 11:58 PM
Yes it is I'm so happy I could dance but that is not allowed is it reverend?
Jim L April 06, 2012 at 12:10 AM
the shill = moron
Mark Wyman April 06, 2012 at 02:51 AM
Now now Jim the only name I called you was your real name I didn't challange your intelligence you need to play nice.

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