To all users of the Sakonnet River Bridge, and all those 37,000 people who took the time to sign our NO TOLL Petition, please pass this information to all your friends, relatives, neighbors, and fellow workers.
The various groups working to stop the proposed the toll are working behind the scenes closely with the East Bay state senators and representatives.
Senator Felag and Representative Edwards have introduced bills and are in the process of getting signatures. Almost all of the East Bay elected officials have signed the bills. We will not know who has not signed those bills until January 20th.
Once we do, we ask that if you know state senators or representatives on the mainland, is to ask them for their support for the bill repealing Article 20. We will get more information to you as soon as we can.
Jim L
3:32 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013
What is this about Mike Burke , head of the Tiverton DEm's telling people to go do something with words normaly not used in public, and then storming out of a meeting, Does this mean that Tiverton taxpayers cannot count on help fighting tolls from theTTDC?This is one of the biggest things that will ever effect this town and none of us can afford to kowtow to the general assembly
Brain Mederble
5:32 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Jim, where were you when your PAID voice at the state house (TCC-endorsed Dan Gordon) was MIA the last 6 months and silent on this issue? Now you have a problem with a volunteer on a committee that you have done nothing but bash because you think he wont help you? How do we even know this is really you? It's so delusional, it could be your ghostwriter.
Olga Enger
5:17 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013
To those users who posts I deleted, may I direct you to a blog written by a Middletown resident about her resolution to think, THEN act. That's how we roll on Patch, so please control the personal insults.
http://middletown.patch.com/articles/resolving-to-think
Just Another Taxpayer
11:21 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013
Olg, I believe the Patch needs to do a better job of monitoring the quality of posts from Joe Sousa. He has written homophobic and racists posts and yet they never get taken down. Yet other posters get cited for using the word idiot. Please be consistent. I regards to Jim L this person has previously admitted to posting a letter which was written by another poster. If you don't believe me ask Matt.
Renee Cwiek
12:05 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013
I couldn't agree more JAT. I also wish someone would do something about all this football spam. I sent Erin an email about it, but nothing's been done yet.
I've seen another Patch editor who is not as strict about what people post and has said that calling someone an idiot does not warrant a deleted post. I'm curious as to if it's an individual decision or if there is some kind of guideline that is followed? I've alerted Erin to posts here: http://tiverton.patch.com/listings/wild-about-beads and yet nothing has been done. Using the word idiot is not allowed, but we can discuss anal beads on a reputable local business article?
Renee Cwiek
5:17 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Wait...Jim comes back and suddenly posts start getting deleted and pretty quickly too. How odd.
Olga Enger
5:28 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Please try to let an editor enjoy her Saturday and keep it civil. That's all we ask.
Renee Cwiek
5:43 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013
I didn't realize I was on the Portsmouth Patch. The Tiverton editor takes a very long time to handle anything that happens.
Jim L
10:33 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013
I am glad that the comments that are nothing but personal comment are removed They have no place in this discssion and to bring up Dan Gordon is just silly this is a fight about the future, not the past every single person from childhood on down will lose if tolls are put in place, has anyone seen the news about price increases on everything going up this year?Does anyone think that paying $40.00 dollars for a transponder and refilling it will help the family budget?To let tolls happen at all with harm this town i believe beyond repair
Just Another Taxpayer
11:23 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013
Jim L. what is the link between the price of a transponder and price increases?
Jack Baillargeron
11:26 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013
I agree Jim L, too include all of the East Bay However ;-}.
Also agree on the past, it does nothing to help the debate.
Brain Mederble
1:39 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013
I'm curious why you think "comments that are nothing but personal " should be removed, yet you started off the comments with a personal attack on Mike Burb? I think I'm beginning to see why you worshiped the hypocrites of the TCC.
Olga Enger
3:10 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013
Just Another Taxpayer, we do our best to monitor comments. but there might be comments we miss, across the various sites. If you see something that is offensive, we want to know about it so please email the local editor to bring it to his/her attention. As a user, you can also "flag" comments.
Just Another Taxpayer
4:21 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013
I have flagged several comments yet they still remain on the Patch. I
Renee Cwiek
4:49 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013
Apparently my flag button is broken since nothing ever gets done about it.
Tiverton Dad
3:00 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Ditto. I will need to begin blocking this website at home so that my kids can't read some of the comments that have been posted recently. Patch needs to have a zero tolerance policy for certain time of comments and delete that member immediately.
Jim L
3:53 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Jat the tranponder is a fixed price, but the toll could be increased by the RITBA just about anytime they want, I guess if Piava weed has her way any increases would be on the new bridge so her backers keep her in office, I really believe that one way or another this will end up in court, The Ga just see's the money coming out of this, I think we can expect a "oh well we tried" type of effort on the part of many DEMS, I hope i'm wrong, It wil have a major effect on Newport county and will just shut the indy park down among other bad effects
bigmanny
5:47 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Jim L a while back before you disappeared you stated that the govern ment of Mass would soon be joining the anti toll fight. Has that happened yet and if not when will that happen. Please note Jim L that this post is all honest and very polite before you try to remove it an block my free speech.
Terry Ferguson
10:23 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
if someone told me I had to pay to use a library would I go? not sure I would. I believe tolls represent a similar sort of access, there are beaches elsewhere without tolls, certainly more access to stores and shopping elsewhere. How is this going to grow revenue. Certainly the bridge was needed but so was the remapping of 195 in providence, where are the tolls to maintain that? No Justice.
Jim L
8:40 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
The State of MA. will have something to say in this deal Manny, just like NUSC the war college and Raythoen will speak up if the tolls are put into effect, I see no reason to flag your post, and it is not up tp me to delete anyones posts, The editor deletes posts that do not follow the terms of service, free spech is a right in this county but personal attacks are not a right
Robert E
1:26 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Jim the State of Ma. maintains 1 toll road the Mass Pike, 1 toll bridge the Tobin Bridge, and 3 tunnels with tolls the Callahan, the Sumner, and the Ted Williams. The State of Ma. would not get involved in this issue. First off states are sovereign entities and can not tell other states what to do and second with all the money Ma . makes off it's tolls it would never tell another state it shouldn't have tolls.
bigmanny
4:23 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Robert E, Jim L seems to think that mass has some sort of issue with its citizens being tolled or taxed by another state . He stated before that he had inside info that this is going to happen.
bigmanny
9:58 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Jim L how would that state of Mass, who may in fact benefit from tolls on the bridge in the way of extra business, have any possible say in what goes on in Rhode Island. Please explain where it is that you get this info or is it just another Jim L theory. We also all know that you and your family are very quick to hit the flag button on any post that you deem an insult. Where were you by the way we all missed your well thought out rambles?
Jim L
10:51 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
everyonewho woprks on the island from mass would be subject to a $8.00 or $10.00 daily fee just to go to work, I have no inside scoop or anything else manny, it's juat logic, and i have not flagged any comments, the editors of patch sem to be cracking down on personal insults, which i think is a good thing
bigmanny
12:10 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Jim L you stated before that you had inside scoop about the Mass state government getting involved to keep the tolls out of Rhode Island. Please explain again why one state would intefere with the taxing and tolling of another. You stated "it jauat logic." If it is juat logic why does Rhode Island not care about me paying tolls on the GW Bridge and the Mass Pike? Stop denying what we all know. Everytime someone posts with things you don't like you flag them. If they were cracking down on personal insults there would be a lot less Joe Sousa to read.
Just Another Taxpayer
11:09 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Jim L. I oppose the tolls just as you do. However, please stop making generalizations like "everyonewho woprks on the island from mass would be subject to a $8.00 or $10.00 daily fee just to go to work". While everyone would be required to pay a toll(assuming efforts to stop it fail), everyone would not pay $8-$10 as you state. Many would buy the transponder which means it would cost much less per trip than you profess in your post. Please stick the facts when trying to make your point.
Peggy
11:17 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013
The FACTs are: All "Out Of State" users of the Newport Bridge MUST pay $4.00 to cross the bridge..Transponder or not. Same for the Sakonnet.
Jim L
11:00 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
JAT only RI residents may purchase a RI transponder, all others from out of state will be subject to the $4.00 FEE WITH A TRANSPONDER or will have to pay $10.00 for the round trip. these are simple facts and have been stated many times, Any body from upstate who came into Newport county would be subject to the $10.00 fee if they did not purchase a transponder, Anybody living in Ma . and working on the island would be subject to the $4.00 EACH WAY FEE,Having driven around the island once or twice daily for months I have see first hand just how many people from Ma appear on the island daily, I could not get the no tolls petition into any bussiness that did work for the federal goverment because the are not allowed to comment on state doing, only after the fact will the impact o these placesill be known, I have stuck to the facts to not do so would only harm the no tolls effort and I have no desire to do that, I have invested lots of my time and over $500.00 hundred dollars in gas to move this protest forward, If you can find me a source that states anything else please be free to point it out
Former Ports resident
12:30 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
JAT I think you owe Jim L an apology
Renee Cwiek
12:36 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
For what exactly?
Jack Baillargeron
1:39 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I agree Former.
The E-ZPass electronic toll reading system used by 24 tolling agencies in 14 states in the Northeast and Midwest is able to differentiate where motorists bought their passes and apply varying prices.
Motorists traveling the full length of the New Jersey Turnpike during off-peak hours, for example, pay $10.40 if they bought their E-ZPass from the turnpike's operators. If they bought their E-ZPass from another tolling authority, or if they're paying cash, the charge is $13.85. Rhode Island residents with an E-ZPass can cross the Claiborne Pell Newport Bridge, which spans part of the Narragansett Bay, for 83 cents, but out-of-state passenger car drivers with E-ZPass pay $4 ($2 per axle), the same as drivers paying cash.
New York City's Metropolitan Transportation Authority charges motorists who bought their E-ZPasses locally $4.80 to cross the Robert F. Kennedy, Bronx-Whitestone and Throgs Neck bridges and use the Brooklyn-Battery and Queens Midtown tunnels. Motorists with transponders purchased elsewhere, or who pay cash, are charged $6.50.
Similar arrangements exist in New Hampshire, Maine and West Virginia, according to AAA, the auto club.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/autos/story/2012-05-24/toll-roads/55192642/1
Charles
2:10 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Out of state users can get a "commuter" rate for Pell Bridge. ( Look it up Peggy. )
Not many people realize that you can.
Jack Baillargeron
2:51 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
You correct Charles USA Today got it wrong. Here is the plan From them
Thirty Day Frequent User Plan (RI6TRIP) – Transponder Specific Plan: 6 trips be taken within 30 days per transponder, providing a discounted rate of $0.91 cents per trip. Upon completion of the 6th trip or 30 days, whichever comes first, the plan cycle will renew. All unused trips in a plan cycle will be billed to your E-ZPass account and appear on your statement as Unused Commuter Trips (UUCT) at the discounted rate of $0.91 cents per trip. The plan becomes effective at 12:01 AM on the day the plan is added to the account and the plan will be activated upon the 1st trip taken. Cancellation of the plan during a current 6 trip cycle will result in a charge for any Unused Commuter Trips not taken. (Only 2 axle passenger vehicles under 7,000 lbs. are eligible).
Thirty Day Unlimited Discount Plan (RIUNL) – Transponder Specific Plan: Unlimited trips within a 30 day cycle on the Newport Pell Bridge only, for a pre-paid cost of $40.00 per transponder enrolled in the plan. This plan is available for credit card customers only. Upon completion of each 30 day cycle the plan will automatically renew and begin on the 31st day. $40.00 will be debited from your pre-paid toll amount for each transponder enrolled in the plan. If the plan is removed from the account it will remain in effect until the end of the current 30 day plan cycle. (Only 2 axle passenger vehicles under 7,000 lbs. are eligible).
Jack Baillargeron
2:51 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Though a little confusing to me anywa y lol
It is from
https://www.ezpassritba.com/static/info/plan.shtml
Jack Baillargeron
2:55 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Forgot to say why I am Confused. I can't find where it says for out of State commuters or if it is just in State commuters, do you happen to know that Charles? I would have though it would be in the application? Maybe I missed it.
Jack Baillargeron
3:00 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Darn other thing didn't paste sorry.
Section (E) Proof of Residency. In order to demonstrate proof of residency you must submit at least one of the applicable documents listed below: (1) Utility Bill (2) Tax Bill (3) Copy of Rental or Lease Agreement (4) RI College Student ID (5) RI State Driver’s License and Vehicle Registration. RITBA reserves the right to request recertification of the Rhode Island resident plan. (only 2 axle passenger vehicles 7000 lbs. maximum gross weight are eligible)
Read the application a few times and no mention of out of State only RI and College etc.
Jim L
11:16 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
I have a NJ transponder because i wa driving to VA alot, when i cross the Pell bridge it cost me $4.00 OR i could just go thru Providence, The Pell bridge was built to great tourist to go thru Newport on their was to Cape Cod
Jim L
12:12 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
I'm glad to see Middletown residents stateing their oppsition to Tolls on the Sakonett River Bridge, This is the biggest issue Newport county will ever face, It wil do more harm han good to every person in Newport county. NO TOLLS
bigmanny
12:18 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Good point JimL now all we need is for the state government of Massachusetts to come riding to the rescue. Jim L when do you think they will be getting involved to protect their citizens like you said they would.
Jim L
1:00 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
I guess you missed the article in the Fall River Herald news about about the Ma. selectman from Fall River asking for a study on how this would effect the voter in his district, Sorry manny you blew this one big time, But this is about your personnel feeling toward me and not about the truth or tolls, isn't it?
bigmanny
2:42 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Okay Jim a selectman from the Riv asking for an impact study is a long way from the state government of Mass coming into try to stop the tolls as you said they would be doing. Sorry JImL you blew this one big time. Maybe you should have been paying more attention. I heard your wife pulled your computer priveleges for a couple of months, hence your long and pleasant absence.
Robert E
3:07 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Jim they do not have selectmen in Fall River they have City Councilors and they can't even manage the city never mind a neighboring state. Performing studies is all the city council does in Fall River they conduct studies on weather they should conduct a study.
bigmanny
2:55 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Jim L could you do us all the favor of posting that article or a link to it and then maybe explaining how the government of Mass could possibly lobby RI to not collect tolls while they do the same thing everyday in several different places. You are the one who made this stuff up JImL. it goes to your creditability which after the whole Nelson attack letter is really pretty low.
Jim L
9:57 am on Monday, January 21, 2013
Robert E, I'm not really sure how the Ma. goverment works so I may have used the wrong term But if you check the article on STOP in the Thursday or friday herald news you will see what I refer to. Manny go do your own homework, YOU will start to count when you find your real name
bigmanny
10:29 am on Monday, January 21, 2013
Jimmy L i searched the interweb but could not find any such article. Could you post a link to it if it really exists at all. Did you make it up or read it post happy hours?
bigmanny
10:05 am on Monday, January 21, 2013
Jim L perhaps you should then use your real name everytime you post. I'd there a reason why you don't use all the letters in your last name.
Richard Joslin
10:34 am on Monday, January 21, 2013
bigmanny The patch pest
Renee Cwiek
10:45 am on Monday, January 21, 2013
Why is he a pest? Because he's asking Jim for a link to back up what he say? I'd hardly consider that to be a pest. Jim made a statement, he should be able to back it up.
bigmanny
10:44 am on Monday, January 21, 2013
Fake Richard Joslin the patch poster who can't seem to keep it clean. Were you able to find the article that Jim L(not real name) is talking about?
Just Another Taxpayer
11:30 am on Monday, January 21, 2013
Joe, I mean Fake Richard, have you had any posts deleted lately?