Here is what I think? If these nit wit DC elitist can find ways of spending our money to a 16 trillion dollar deficit, then they sure the heck can one, enforce current immigration laws and two round up and export the 11 million illegals in this country. That's my two cents.

Ralph, You're A Racist.

@chris- well I guess if I want this country free of those who have broken American laws by entering into this country illegally, than ill wear that racist badge with honor.

me to ralph round up them illegals and deport them most of them are mlst likly bleeding our tax dollars dry, freefood, free school, free medical etc. that be my opion

National Everify for all employees . National Security is affected when our borders resemble Swiss cheese . American jobs are worth the cost. No jobs and they self deport.
www.eVerify.com

It should be remembered that EVerify is NOT an anti-immigrant bill. If it was the Democratic party would oppose it. It is an anti small business bill, and as such, the 'you didn't build that' party loves it. The penalty and burden is on the employer.
Anything that harms small business is a Democratic godsend.

The mayor of Hazleton Pa. proposed legislation that landlords verify immigration status - that it would be illegal to rent to an undocumented alien. Quite rightly, this was seen as intolerable and got nowhere.
But think of the point being made- illegal immigrants can live here,get their children educated etc. The only thing they are forbidden by law to do is support themselves. They must, by definition unless they intend to break the law, be supported by others.
Does that make any sense?
No Joe, increasing EVerify will not solve the illegal immigration situation. It will only hurt employers and keep peopel from supporting themselves, rahter than have others pay their way.

If done correctly, It doesn't hurt business. The IRS and State Dept of Taxation require all the same information required for a check. .These checks could be coordinated to provide the service. So you see you are wrong in your assumption

Do you own a business?
If you don't, I assure you that if you did you would know just how absurd your last post was.
'if done correctly', 'could be coordinated' oh, sure, dont see any possible problems there. After all, a small business has so much spare time on its hands to make sure all the regulations are in order, no problem.
When someone says to the government agencies involved 'I want to start a small business in RI ' the response should be 'Great!! What can we do to make that happen?'
The current response is more like 'Not on MY watch.'

OK You have it your way. I know better.

EVerify protects business owners from Prosecution in cases where stolen or phoney SS. numbers are used . Providing Businesses with legal workers will help our country.

Fines the heck out of businesses that hire illegals- Similar to seizure of vehicles and assets during drug arrests, utilize the moneies obtained to run the verification programs- Make the program self- sufficient. Oh wait, this is RI- there will be so many people sticking their hands in the moneies generated that this program will be doomed from the start.

Townie - Maybe if you learned how to spell people would listen to you. Fines the heck?? How about fine? Moneies?? Maybe you meant monies. Another product of the fine public education system, no doubt. Most "illegals" could probably do better. Or would not even try. As Lincoln said: "Beter to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt".

Is everyone on this post an illegal? LOL

Todo El Tiempe Tu Hablas Mierdas De Personas No Estan Cartes. No Me Gusta. Cuando Tu Quiere Limpada Platos Y Mesas En Restorantes, Estas Hablandos. Tu Madre Trabaja En La Calle. Tu Madre Es Un Prostituta Y Chimars Burros.

no habla espanol.... lol.. Actually I am hispanic (Rican) and I say kick every one out that has a record or commits a crime, fingerprint, collect DNA, post them on INTERPOL... too many occasions I have seen illegals in our court house for DWI or DUI and we cannot even keep em off the street from doing it again... too many REAL Americans die from hit and run illegals and nothing is being done about it..

http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2013/03/providence-man-sentenced-to-2-years-in-identity-theft-scheme.html

A citizen of the Dominican Republic living in Providence has been sentenced to two years in federal prison in a scheme to steal and sell the identities of Puerto Rican U.S. citizens.

U.S. Attorney's office said Rafael Lara-Mejia was sentenced in U.S. District Court on Tuesday. He pleaded guilty in December to one count each of conspiracy to commit identification fraud and conspiracy to encourage an alien to live in the United States for financial gain. He was among those named in a 2011 federal indictment in Puerto Rico.

It alleges that conspirators in Puerto Rico illegally obtained Puerto Rican identities and documents. Conspirators throughout the U.S. found customers for Social Security cards and birth certificates costing between $700 and $2,500.

All those in favor of enforcing immigration laws should find a way to join their voices so they will be heard loud and clear. Maybe we can send all these comments to our U.S. Senators and Congressmen, our Governor, and our so-called representatives at the Statehouse.

William, we will happily help you enforce immigration laws after we change them.

William, the first thing we need is better border security. Can't have Mexican cartel members showing up in North Carolina any more. That doesn't work.

Then, we need a path to citizenship for folks already here. Alabama has demonstrated that not providing this step could result in economic collapse.

Lastly, we need a new process much more akin to what the Founders wanted in 1789 than what we have now. We need to track you, we need to tax you. We need a background check. You need to keep your nose clean but we'll put you to work and let you drive right away.

Why are you worried about the numbers?? That sounds a little creepy. Your description of California is also now way off base.

Sorry if I sound creepy to you. We have immigration laws because we want to control the numbers (among other reasons). It almost completely is all about the numbers. Open borders would certainly send this country into an economic malaise greater that that we are already in. We have 20 million Americans out of work. Many of them have low skill levels to sell to employers. Most illegal immigrants are in the same category. Why would you want to bring in more of the same type of individuals. It would increase competition for low level jobs, driving down already low wages for this group, and increase the burden on an already overburdened social welfare system. This is where I got my info on California: http://www.fairus.org/facts if you have numbers that refute these I would be glad to see them.

Firstly - it's not an "immigration" debate. It's an "illegal alien" debate. Secondly - there are many many illegals here than the 12 million alleged here. Thirdly - when will we deal with the mis-interpretation of the law that currently automatically gives you citizenship when born on US Soil. I'm very tired of watching my hard earned money being wasted on their schooling, housing and healthcare!

My "guess" on the 12-20 million is based in large part on the 1986 estimate of 1.5 that eventually turned out to be 3.

That's correct. Again, it is only a guess on my part based on previous assumptions by our learned and objective government.

Hi "Just Another Taxpayer",

All the "data" on illegal immigrants is "made up". We are not allowed to ask for immigration status. The "position" I support is that if you are in the country illegally you should be deported as prescribed by federal law. Whether the number is 5 million or 15 million is fairly irrelevant. Again, my number is based on the government's estimates for the 1986 amnesty, and my guess is a fairly wide range. Plus 1 to plus 9 million is a reasonable guess considering the accuracy of the 1986 estimate.

Just how many illegal immigrants do you believe are in this country and what do you have to support the figure? Is there a magic number that you are willing to grant citizenship to, or do you believe we should just have open borders? Do you believe America has unlimited resources and should allow everyone to come here that wants to? Would you like to see all immigration barriers removed?

Rush and Fox news reports there are illegal immigrants here. Other "news" outlets report we have "undocumented immigrants". These other outlets apparently feel the situation (problem) can be solved with semantics.

The term "illegal immigrant" does not exist under law since being undocumented is not a crime. Therefore, it is not semantics. Beyond that, as Alabama found out, following a "deport them all strategy" is foolhardy.

Wrong "Bagdad Bob" as usual.

Actually “Illegal Immigrant” As well as Illegal “Alien are correct”. Reason being that is what is in the Department of Homeland Security Laws and Immigration Laws.

"The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996" is not called the undocumented Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 now is it.

It Is a civil violation on first offence and you are deported, and a Federal felony on 2nd offence after being deported if they re-enter the Country.

Deportable Alien - An alien in and admitted to the United States subject to any grounds of removal specified in the Immigration and Nationality Act. This includes any alien illegally in the United States, regardless of whether the alien entered the country by fraud or misrepresentation or entered legally but subsequently lost legal status

Deportation - The formal removal of an alien from the United States when the alien has been found removable for violating the immigration laws. Deportation is ordered by an immigration judge without any punishment being imposed or contemplated. Prior to April 1997 deportation and exclusion were separate removal procedures. The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 consolidated these procedures. After April 1, 1997, aliens in and admitted to the United States may be subject to removal based on deportability.

Sorry Jack, a human being cannot be "illegal" by definition. It was called the Illegal Immigration Act since illegal modifies the act of immigration, not the person participating.

When it comes to actual law, especially when case law is involved, your ability to type a lot of words that don't mean much doesn't help you. At the end of the day, in real where your ability to bloviate does not matter, you're just going to lose like you do on everything else any way.

Ok, we now know that Jack cannot tell the difference between a verb and a noun. This is important information.

For instance, as a accused murderer an "illegal fill in the blank"?? No, they are not.

Jack may laugh on the blog but when the laws our changed to our liking, we always get to celebrate the last laugh we always get in his honor. For instance, when same sex marriage passed, I laughed for hours at all the "Jacks" out there that didn't want it to happen.

Jack, that's not what you said before. Then again, I caught you on the Bill of Rights thing, even posted the link, and you tried to hold to your arrogant position.

People like you can't lose enough to make me happy. We should pass one of the gun laws just so we can laugh at you.

By the way, here's the DHS definition page. On it you will see two things:

a. no definition for "illegal anything"

b. when it does come up in another section, said person is defined as an "immigrant" but not a perm. resident alien

http://www.dhs.gov/definition-terms#8

Robert I love to listen to people like you. You don't admit to any problems that exist, immigration gun rights, big government.I have read many of your comments. You talk a big game,and will twist any issue, but If you had to put your own skin in the game, your game would cease. You must love m s n b c.

Russell, I don't watch MSNBC. Slant is slant.

Immigration is about to get fixed. Gun rights will wait until 2022. Big government will wait until the social victories are won.

Based on what I pay in taxes, I plenty of skin in the game.

If you enter this country without authorization or overstay a legitimate authorization, you are classified as being in the country illegally. Granting any form of legal residence would not serve as a deterrent to others wanting to come here illegally.

I believe a strong enforcement of today's laws is needed before any reform should be contemplated. A mandatory and enhanced E-Verify would certainly be needed.

If you believe those here without authorization should be allowed to stay, please explain why. I understand the desire to want to come here to improve possibilities for yourself and your family. Many, many millions of others have already done so, and many millions more will...legally.

William, it does not make you an illegal person.

An E-verify that actually worked would be nice. The current one makes too many mistakes.

I just happen to hold the same position the Founders did. About 52% of folks arrived here without exactly following the rules.

(When Jack loses, which is often, he complains about spin. It's kind of like arguing against talk radio which is where he parrots his points from.)

Not all illegal aliens are latino they come from all countries and races. What they all have in common is they all broke the law and came here illegally. There are people who have been waiting years to move to this country and these people sneak across the border and jump the line and you want to reward them. How is this fair to all the immigrants who went through the process and came here legally. How would you feel if you were standing in line for 8 hours to buy tickets for an event and someone comes and cuts the line. They then let them into the event for free and tell you when you get to the front that the event is sold out. That is what the illegals are doing. How is that fair to all those waiting in line to come here. Would you reward someone who kills someone whit a knife by giving them a gun these people showed total disreguard for our laws and should not be rewarded for that by being allowed to stay. That is just sending the wrong message. They should be barred for life.

Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.
The law also says Mexico can deport foreigners who are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” violate Mexican law, are not “physically or mentally healthy” or lack the “necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents.

Shill, that's all fine in theory but our economy depends on these folks.

It should be noted that Mexico does not share our Founders.

Typical spin and lies by "Bagdad Bob". There is a system to legally enter this Country, there is a system to become and Americal Citizen. As many who did follow the system will tell you. "It is not right that they had to do it legally and wait 7 years or so to become to become a citizen", and learn english. "Citizenship test is only in english by the way and always has been".

When you do not follow the laws set forth you are commiting a crime period. If it is not a crime as "Bagdad Bob" keeps lying about. Then why do they go before a judge and get deported against their will? He makes no sense at all. As most pro amnesty people are delusional of what is right and what is wrong.

Not only that it is a lie also that they are a big part of the economy, most payt no taxes and soak the system through fraud "SS number stealing', "fake Identity papers etc, waste and abuse and crime. Not to mention the anchor baby scam on taxpayers.

Should also mentyion that it has been estimated that 40% of the Mexical economy is illegals send money to Mexico, who even writes phamlets on how to scam the American welfare and SS system. gee wonder why?

I believe it is also like 60% Mexican illegals and the rest are other Countries, but we never see the numbers on that 40% which also is a decrement to the economy and the taxpayers.

I also find it amusing to be discussing this on a law firms article that will eventually and many have for decades helped illegal scam the system, because the US Government are not protecting our Borders at all especially the Rio Grand area as that is the entry point for all illegals from any Country, especially the violent Criminals that have loaded up our prisons, cost taxpayers 100's of millions ever year.

Yep real smart there Uncle Sam.

Jack, the whole "spin and lies" thing is the kind of foolishness we expect from Rush and Mark Levin. I'm sorry if the facts disturb you.

There is no legal connection between "crime" and "being deported." This is just Jack showing once again that he parrots pretty well but actual definitions elude him.

The FBI disagrees with his next point. As a matter of fact, based on class, the actual citizen is more likely to engage in benefit fraud. His attempt at a point is also undermined by economic data from both Alabama and Arizona.

His "40%" charge is totally made up fraud not supported by serious research. The fact is that since the economic crisis, most folks here undocumented from Mexico have been returning to Mexico.

When a racist gets desperate, we do know they will make things up.