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Rep. Gordon Says He is Not 'Anti-Gay' in Lengthy Radio Appearance

Rep. Dan Gordon says he is not anti-gay, just opposed to the formation of sexually-oriented groups in public schools.

 

State Rep. Dan Gordon (R-Tiverton, Portsmouth) spent nearly two hours in studio at AM radio station 630 WPRO Thursday morning to explain and defend comments he posted three days ago on Tiverton-Little Compton Patch.

His original post and follow-up posts expressed his disagreement with the formation of a Gay-Straight Alliance for Tiverton High School students. He objects to what he calls "sexual meet-up groups" where students get "sexed-up." Talking to host John DePetro and to a string of callers, Gordon elaborated on the online posts.

"Anything of a sexual nature should not be taking place at a taxpayer-funded facility. The purpose of a school is to get an education," Gordon said. He repeatedly said he supports the rights of those students to form their group, but he believes it should be outside the public school system. He suggested it would be better placed in a private residence, with parents who could supervise, because of the sexual tendencies of high school students.

"When I was in school, if there was a group for heterosexual students that was going to be meeting after school, I would all day be thinking about who are all the new faces that would be there tonight. That’s just human nature," he said.

Gordon also reiterated that this is not an anti-gay stance. "I'm not anti-gay. I have a gay cousin who I enjoy spending time with," Gordon said. He later added, "I have gay friends. I have gay family. I’m a United States Marines service veteran …. There were gay individuals that we served with."

He also said he would welcome to opportunity to learn more about Tiverton High School's Gay-Straight Alliance. "I have reached out to the group in Tiverton and asked to attend one of their meetings. I would be happy to attend if invited ... Maybe I can sit in and learn a little more about the group."

Gordon's comments have been attacked by Rhode Island Democratic Party Chairman Ed Pacheco, who called the show for a lengthy debate with Gordon. Pacheco said, "Dan, you’ve been dodging questions since you got in the studio. What type of organization is this at Tiverton High School? Your comment is that this is a sexual meet-up group getting sexed-up."

Gordon responded, "Yes, the words 'gay' and 'straight' indicate some sort of sexual preference. It has something to do with sexuality."

Pacheco responded, "The purpose of this group is the promotion of diversity, tolerence and education." He called Gordon's comments "appaling" and later said, "This is about diversity and tolerance in our community," not a partisan issue.

Numerous callers objected to Gordon's stance, and several said a group like this gives students a safe haven from bullying. Gordon suggested that flaunting sexuality does the exact opposite. "Perhaps if they weren’t flaunting their sexuality or advertising it, there might be less of that bullying," Gordon said.

A female caller asked Gordon if he ever had sex in high school. "I did not," he said.

She was surprised, saying that when she was in high school in the early 1980s, "Everyone had sex in high school." She argued that all teenagers have sex, so it's up to parents to teach them safe practices and treat them like adults.

"I grew up in a strict household … and I did not have sex in high school," Gordon said.

DePetro gave Gordon the last word in the debate, and he ended with these comments: "I just want to clear up some of the hyperbole that's being thrown about by the liberal agenda. Their comments border on lunacy, or they have a reading comprehension problem … I am not anti-gay … I think most taxpayers would agree, especially in my region, that they wouldn’t want their tax dollars used to support a group that is sexually centered."

tiff

12:34 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Oh my....how clueless can one person be??? How can anyone take him seriously on ANY issue from here on?? The funny thing is that he doesn't know when to stop talking...he could have easily just apologized, been statesman-like and met with the group. Instead, he is over compensating...

"I have gay family..." If it were not so sad, it would be laughable.

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j michael

12:54 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Well, I actually believe he didn't have sex in high school. Don't think it had anything to do with his "strict household," though.

Does he really believe what he says. I think he's playing to what he thinks people want to hear (at least his base). Apparently, he even supported a gay candidate for the RI House. See his campaign Facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=139075819449210&set=a.139070172783108.18021.126829394007186

The candidate, Erich Sturn, was an openly gay Republican who opposed Gordon Fox (D), I think. Wonder how Mr. Sturn feels about this -- not that a gay Republican has much credibility these days.

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Bill Jones

12:56 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

I feel quite sorry for his 'gay friends.'

Clearly, they need higher standards.

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TivertonGirl

1:22 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

I wonder if he tries to dictate where they get together too?

Tiverton Dad

1:07 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

I would have asked him if he planned to support banning all other after school activities, because you never know when crazy monkey sex will break out at the robotics club.

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Kate

1:41 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

@Tiverton Dad: I just laughed out loud about crazy monkey robot sex.

Also, why does he assume a meeting of gay--and STRAIGHT--youth to talk about being gay automatically means it will be an hour-long discussion on the finer points of gay sex? His mind is much filthier than the kids', I can assure you.

TivertonGirl

1:17 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Blaming the victim, typical.

If only they weren't gay, they wouldn't be bullied, right, Gordon?

Pathetic.

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Tiverton Dad

1:20 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

I'm waiting him to submit a don't-ask-don't-tell bill to the General Assembly.

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tiff

1:23 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Well, if there is any silver lining in any of this is that Gordon and Sousa have been outed.... for their ignorance!!!

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franny glass

1:37 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

I didn't know agendas, liberal or otherwise, could throw things about. I really need to get out more.

Aside from that, if Mr. Gordon thinks that bullying is confined to sexual preference or gender identity, he must have gone to rather unique schools. In my experience, anyone who's in the slightest bit different from the rank and file in any way is a target.

Perhaps he should confine his opinions to those things he actually knows something about. But using that as a prerequisite, he might not be able to contribute anything at all.

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Kate

1:38 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Oh, the old "I know gay people" defense. Almost as effective as "I'm not racist, I have a black friend."

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Erin

2:14 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

I called in this morning, and unfortunately got cut off right when they changed topics. I sat there throughout the whole segment listening to PARENT after PARENT call and raise their voices, bash, and try to humiliate Rep. Gordon for taking his stance against a "sex affiliated" program that is going to be introduced to Tiverton High School. I am a 24 year. old and can't believe how many adults stood up for this!His whole point was to make sure that schools do not take on too much and stick to EDUCATING the students, rather than try to promote any sex enriching program. If we could just stop and listen to each other! One caller called in saying Rep. Gordon was outrageous, however added that Cumberland High school has a child care program and agreed it was a problem.The next screamed and ask him if he had sex in high school and told him that that was REALITY. Well, if that is our reality, then why are you all folding as parents and allowing this in schools. Stand up against it! One woman called from Connecticut saying that these programs are good for the students, and Rep. Gordon asked if they are allowed to talk about sex. She immediately said "no", then in the same breath contradicted herself saying that "Yes they can if they ask the leader of the group!" Rep. was not being discriminatory, he was trying to keep the schools away from making "sex" and "sex talk" a habit and norm! Let families alone be the advocates to their children about sex, and leave the schools to educate.

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Cynda Martin

4:27 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Hello,
I'm Cynda Martin, the creator of the GSA at Tiverton High School. Nowhere in our agenda is there anything about sex, or sex related topics. Not only is the topic of sex completely irrelevent to the purpose of a GSA, but that is not a topic to be discussed. Mr. Forrest, our advisor, and myself, wouldn't allow it. We are here to make a change, to make a difference, in the school and the lives of the students that go here. We're trying to get people to understand that bullying, and not just towards gays, is wrong. We need people (students) to know that if they are having a problem at school, or even at home, and they don't know where they belong, that they can come to us. We will be there to support them no matter what, because we believe in equality. No matter what your gender is, or your sexual orientation, your race, religion, anything..we are all equal. That is what this GSA, and all other GSA's are for. Not for getting "sexed-up." Not even anywhere near that. I am absolutely in shock that Gordon, and those who agree with him would make such an assumption. You claim you are adults. Why don't you try acting like one, and start learning about those things that you don't quite understand before making assumption that aren't only rude, but also insulting to others.

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Karen McDaid

9:13 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

Congratulations to you, Cynda, for continuing to make a difference, and for rising above the ignorance. The foolish comments certainly demonstrate the need for the GSA. We are all fortunate that you have taken on the job of starting it.

@Erin, do you really think that an organization that encourages students to share their problems and get along is NOT educational? To assume that a Gay-Straight Alliance is "sex enriching" demonstrates your ignorance.

j michael

2:20 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Yes - let the families be the advocates. They're doing such a bang-up job, aren't they?

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Jim L

2:25 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

What kind of comment is that?Do you know these families? ANd What families would they be? next it's what their houses look like?

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j michael

10:28 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Someone posted opposition to the GSA and made a comment about letting the families be the advocates for their children. I'm saying it takes more than a family, particularly when the family cannot provide the appropriate emotional, financial, etc. support. It's families, many of them church-going, two-parent families, that have raised some of the little monsters that go around bullying others who aren't the norm on their cul-de-sac. And many families also fail to accept their own children if they are different. It starts at home, but when the home fails, society has to step in.

Linda Larsen

3:56 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Rep. Gordon,
I do live in your region (unfortunately) and I do approve of tax dollars being spent on these programs. Even though this club costs our taxpayers.....NOTHING!!!!!
Many of us can spout about our feelings on the topic, including yourself however, here is some factual data. (Note - I did post this on the other article, and neither you nor Joe S. had a response.)

If your goal truely is to increase academic performance, then here is a recommendation made by the Rhode Island Department of Health and Elementary and Seconday Education. The recommendation was taken from the Rhode Island Department of Health and Elementary and Secondary Education - 2009 Youth at Risk - Sexual Orientationand and Health Risk of Rhode Island Public High Schools (released November 2011).

Research also de-monstrates that schools that focus on health and safety can dramati-cally increase academic performance. Consequently, the following recommendations are offered:
*Support policies and programs promoting self-esteem and diversity
*Adopt interventions addressing youth behavioral healthcare needs
*Integrate LGBU issues into academics
*Enforce LGBU anti-discrimination policies
*Increase screening and referral of at-risk LGBU youth

And just an FYI, students learn about and talk about sex in schools (starting in middle school) which is included in the approved RI Health curriculum.

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Joe Sousa.

4:24 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Tiverton Mom I am aware of the issue you raise because of previous patch articles on this subject. I don't know if schools can accomplish all of these goals. I'm sure our school committee is looking at all avenues of resolve

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Linda Larsen

4:47 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Joe, thank you for your response. I don't believe that schools can accomplish all of these goals themselves. They need our support and assistance. However, what I do believe is that they are doing the best with what they have. I have a child at the high school and a child at the middle school. They are both involved in sports, music, community service, student government, church groups and clubs. I am in the schools often and I see the challanges. Our school committee, our administration, and our teachers are constantly trying their best to provide the best possible quality education for ALL of our students.
Although we often hear about the negaitves, we have so many positives going on in our schools. This club being one of them. We all should be extremely proud of our students. I beg you all to come and attend an event, a play, a concert, a talent show, senior vareity show, an art exhibit, a sporting event, awards night......and see exactly what I am talking about. Better yet, volunteer to be a judge for Senior Project this June (Mr. Forrest is always looking for volunteers from the community). You will be amazed at all of their social, emotional, and academic accomplishments.

Average Joe

4:05 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Kathleen, I do not think this forum needs to resort to name calling. Although I am not a fundamental Christian, I do not think they "collect the most ignorant and malevolent people in society". I think that statement is very ignorant and hurtful.

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jon devolve

4:44 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Mr. Gordon,

You can try and spin this however you want. What remains clear is your initial reaction to the article that was written. How dare you threaten the people of Tiverton by stating "you will re-direct" funding to charter schools! All of the students at THS have different attitudes, values, and beliefs that may not agree with what our society considers to be the "norm." You have reacted in such a way that is a disgrace to the people that you represent. I have had the privilege of teaching many of the students at THS since the 5th grade! What makes my job rewarding comes from watching these students grow and figure out there own unique nitch in life. What you have done with your comments has proven to me yet again, that the school system in Tiverton is not FAILING our students! Its easy to sit there and point out test scores and teacher salaries! That's what everyone does! Being negative is easy. That's what cowards do! What I have seen over the last few days hopefully proves to everyone that our schools are strong and help to facilitate the necessary skills for our students to become productive members of society. You can respond to this in whatever way you choose too. I will say this, the next time you think about commenting on what happens at a local school, come and spend a day with us to get a better understanding of a school environment. Get to know the students, teachers and administrators. The negativity in this town must stop and it starts with you!

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DSilva

5:22 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Very well said Jon. I can only hope that Portsmouth residents head your advice as well. We simply can't continue to split our towns in two. Any elected official who does so should be shown the door.

cbandoni

5:31 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Dan should have done his homework before he got into publicly denouncing a Gay-Straight Alliance Club. This will be interesting to watch.

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Sherry Raposa

5:51 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Sadly, I think it has been a while since Mr. Gordon has spent any time in any school setting. He has no concept of what today's youth have to deal with on a daily basis. I commend this group of teens for attempting to bring awareness to their peers and the school community for the simple sake of teaching tolerance. I also commend the teachers and faculty for supporting this groups agenda, which by the way is not sex based. Shame on you Mr. Gordon for even opening your mouth and giving an opinion without first educating yourself.

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M. P.

6:27 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

So, Mr. Gordonn "has nothing against the gays community". Good to hear. I fully expect to see him supporting gay marriage in Rhode Island then. Put you vote where your big mouth is, Dan.

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RI Politics

6:31 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

And the reason he is all of the sudden not "anti gay" is because the Speaker of the House is openly gay and this dope you people elected won't get jack crap at the State House now!

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M. P.

7:38 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

What tax dollars??? This group costs nothing. These students take their own time (after school hours) to support and advocate for tolerance and compassion for all students. This group had NOTHING to do with sex! It's about tolerance. I suppose that he also considers PFLAG a sex group. He speaks about lunacy? Is he referring to himself? His comments are so out there. Obviously he does not think before he speaks, and if he does think before he speaks then he is the lunatic. He is an embarassment to his district. This is what happens when people don't actually research whom they are voting for. I can only hope these words come back to haunt him in 2012.

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Concerned for Tiverton

10:01 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

The comments by Gordon (title of Representative purposely left out because he does not deserve it) were rude, bigoted, and a complete slap in the face to every student that has been bullied in their lifetime because of their sexual orientation.

Gordon and his sidekick Sousa need to do some research on Tyler Clementi, the 18 year old Rutgers University student who committed suicide after being the victim of anti-gay bullying. It would be interesting to see what Gordon and Sousa would have to say to the parents of Tyler Clementi.

Shame on you Gordon.

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Joe Sousa.

11:22 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Concerned for Tiverton
I am familiar with the story. I would express my heart felt condolence to the family. It is a lose of life that makes us all sad.

heather

10:05 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Dan Gordon will be back on the air tomorrow (Friday) am I for one will be tuning and calling in. I just think its sad that someone so misinformed, uneducated, and homophobic is in a position of power,

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Mark Mello

10:29 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Mr. Gordon's comments were uncalled for, and I beleive that no matter what he says, he won't be able to take the thought that our represenitive has anti-gay ideas. This group is helping the taxpayers children and it costs a whopping $0.00!! There is no excuse for this man to bash on tiverton residents, I'm dissapointed in Mr. Gordon. As a straight male, I support the desicions of the GSA and think that it is one of the better clubs that the high school has.

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Shawn Loomis

11:05 pm on Thursday, March 31, 2011

He Continually tried to dodge my question on the subject of GSA, I asked him if he would rather a student commit suicide because there was NO GSA for them, or there be a GSA and save his life. That is what it boils down to! Instead he makes petty comments (border-line bullying) about teens punctuation and grammar. These little antics of his aren't gaining the support he thought they would, I personally thank everyone who is helping with this situation! Also I have a question for Gordon, why doesn't he ask his gay friends, his gay cousin, or his gay family if a GSA would have helped there High School years. (For any of you who are going to call tomorrow please bring up my questions! and ask why he did nothing but dodge questions.((I'll be in school LEARNING, )) Thank you everyone!

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maureen

7:02 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

Parents can not deny that our children are being overly sexualized. If you are a parent of a child who watches "Glee" you should probably be aware that the very first episode showed 2 young girls in bed with each other, caught in a romantic moment. A recent episode of same show had 2 young men kissing one another. Think about how many grade school children are watching this show! And it's not the only show. If you are watching "Jersey Shore", that show is pure smut. How many kids watch that one? If this isn't seeking to get kids to experiment with their sexuality, I don't know what is. Statistics state that if a young boy dabbles in a homosexual relationship, he is 80% likely to remain in homosexual relationships. What is wrong with that? How about the schools teach young men about the effects of sexually transmitted diseases, like AIDS, which are much more likely to occur in gay men. It is a known fact that AIDS is still rampant, only that the treatment is much more likely to slow the painful and excruciating death of an AIDS patient. Think about this. When was the last time that you heard any story about AIDS. It's being swept under a rug of denial. A young male homosexual person is much more likely to go on to have multiple partners throughout his lifetime. Even if he is eventually in a "committed" relationship, a gay man is much more likely to have outside sexual partners. This is not true love. This is not fidelity.

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tiff

8:15 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

Wow, Maureen, for someone who knows nothing about homosexuality, you certainly have it ALL FIGURED OUT!! Statistics and all.....btw ....did you know that 90% of all statistics are wrong? That was a joke....

So if a boy "dabbles" in homosexuality, he becomes a homosexual?? YES, Maureen, YES!! That is because he is a homosexual! Wow.....

Oh and AIDS!!! Let's scare the children!! Those homosexuals sure are more promiscuous than heteros!! I don't know any heteros who have had more than one partner....are you serious?????

tiff

7:59 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

So, Gordon is going to be on radio AGAIN today?? What station???

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M. P.

8:22 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

Maureen-
I am not quite sure what your post has to do with GSA. If you are speaking to the subject of fidelity, most heterosexual relationships that end in divorce (or breakup) is due to lack of faithfullness on the part of one partner or the other. The lack of fidelity is NOT due to sexual orientation, it is due to a flaw in human nature. As for television - Americans thrive on entertainment and they love their reality TV. If people didn't watch it (in droves) the networks wouldn't air it. If you prefer that your child not watch something, then turn off the TV.

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faithful reader

1:32 pm on Friday, April 1, 2011

maureen, I'm not sure what sheltered environment you grew up in, but I am a 50 something female who grew up in a fairly normal family, and I remember overhearing my mom & aunts discussing which of the "church ladies" was currently sleeping with the priest, and oh yeah, who can forget all the priests who were sexually abusing young boys, did you miss those headlines? I know I wasn't the only one who had "one night stands", and yes I knew those who experimented with their sexual orientation and spent my fair share of clubbing time in gay clubs. As I see it, the only difference between then and now is that with all the media we have available to us today, EVERYTHING! is done out in the open, and I'm all for it! So when my kids are watching Jersey Shore, or 16 and Pregnant, I don't stop them, but I do use the opportunity to start open discussions about sexuality and consequence of choices, something that rarely happened when I was growing up. As the mom of two teenaged girls, so far openness has worked. They are not afraid to ask me tough questions, they tell me about friends who are making questionable decisions, and avoid friends who are going down a path that they wouldn't choose for themselves. What more can a parent ask?

LCRIUSA

8:35 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

Oh boy. Gordon likely uses his basis for believing this is a sexual group because of the images the haters use to distort gay people gathering in any way. The pejorative term 'Gay agenda' comes to mind. The word 'propaganda' used by a staff member at the Patch is another. Maureen's misinformed rant above is another. Gordon blames the bullying on those who become equally public about their personhood. Fifty years ago he would have blamed blacks for getting beaten for wanting to vote.

You folks in the GSA are a lot braver than most of us, me included. Bullying in the high school is an inescapable realty for many. Ignore those who dismiss your episodes because others are also bullied. That does not change your reality. You are truly to be commended for taking these issues in your own hands and creating a safe place. It is also heartening to see the support you have from administrators and teachers. We are all are very fortunate to live int his lovely bubble we call New England.

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j michael

9:42 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

Bubble -- a very nice thought. I'm sure glad I live in New England!

j michael

9:15 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

Maureen, please don't take this to an abortion discussion. BTW: I think they should be mandatory in most cases, and people should take the morning after pill like a vitamin, but that's for another forum :)

Glee is entertainment. And if you're a fat girl, a gay boy or even the school tramp, life in high school can be pretty hard. Many identify in some way with one or more of the characters in the show, which is why the ratings are through the roof. The show addresses real issues, albeit in a fantastical way, that are in every high school -- teen pregnancy, bullying, sexual identity, eating disorders, gossip, meanness, etc. The show is less about encouraging sexual experimentation and more about acknowledging it exists. Maybe it would be better for homosexuals to get married, reproduce and live a lie?

I suggest you take the satellite dish off your house, get rid of the big-screen TV in your living room and listen only to conservative talk radio.

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maureen

9:47 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

Dear j michael,
Not sure what to say about your first comment. I pray that you are not serious. this is not a good argument on your part.
Still don't think that shows like JS and GL are at all good for children. Not entertainment, but sexual enticement.
Life in high school has always been hard.
Don't make it harder. Talk about confusion for our young kids.

Heard a pediatrician asking about the latest wave of young people experimenting with homosexuality, that she is noticing in her own practice, especially among young girls. In college, young women are hooking up with other young women. It's called "LUG" ....Lesbian Until Graduation. Kids are definitely experimenting with their same-sex attractions.

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Tiverton Substitute

10:04 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

Dear J Michael,
I think you are a disgusting individual for your comment about abortions and the morning after pill. You are a complete hypocrite saying that you are in favor or GSA because it promotes the individual but at the same time you see nothing wrong with killing millions of babies each year in the United States. I suggest you think about the value of EVERY human life before you pipe up again!

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j michael

10:11 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

Dear Tiverton Substitute,

I am NOT the one who took this conversation into an abortion debate. Thank your friend Maureen for that. I don't consider a fetus a baby. And I can't see bringing more unwanted children into the world. We can't feed and support the ones floating around the planet now. I support breaking the cycle of poverty associated with unwanted/planned pregnancies. And you will NOT shut me up or change my mind, just as I don't expect to change yours. But feel free to judge me, you have that right.

j michael

9:58 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

I am serious, Maureen, so you keep praying for me. I also make no judgment on the show's entertainment value, I'm just saying it represents a reality you may not want to admit exists. Furthermore, unless you are a homosexual, do not tell us about confusion and life being hard. It's people like you who make it harder!

LUGs -- how scandalous! Oh well, nothing wrong with physical gratification. And at least the LUGs won't get pregnant and need the abortion services.

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Jim L

9:59 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

Sorry guys but we you i them they are getting way of base, this whole line of talk is getting to be like a tv show. i need a real map to get from tiverton high school to lug, again this is a personal choice and to discuss here serve's no porpose, names and faces eye to eye are best for this. or folks trained in such . No one,s mind will be changed here, i I had a magic wand more than one of us would fix all this, but we don't. The best we can do is VOTE, you can't change a mind but you can change a vote, by asking a friend, to help someone out, for many reasons(I think we have one here)If we all get our shit together and stopped these stupid warswe would not be sqeezeing every dollar for the town and schools to just get buy and that is an issue for all.

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Sherry Raposa

9:59 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

Again, I feel the need to comment. People are really harping on the whole "sex"thing. I would encourage any opposers to educate themselves on what this group is about. It is a safe outlet for kids, gay and straight, to express their concerns or fears about multiple subjects . This is NOT a chat room about sex. This is not a gay only group. I find it sad that so many students,mostly straight, are supporting this group and the adults are the ones trying to "sweep it under the rug." I compel all of you to learn about the group before casting your opinion.

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Nicole Bosse

10:19 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

If anything positive came out of his bigoted remarks, it is that in the real world everyone is not accepting and tolerant. It's sad to think that someone looked upon to lead is so close-minded and stubborn. Let's all remember that the civil rights movement also had strong opposition and now we have a black president.

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Tiverton Substitute

10:21 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

I am currently a Tiverton Substitute and have spent many hours working in the high school. If you have a child in this school, I have probably taught them on more than one occasion. After spending much time in this school, I cannot get over all of the obstacles and junk that these students are faced with daily. No longer is high school a place to come and learn, growing academically in preparation for the next stage in life, but rather it has become a "social war zone". In recent years cyber bullying, homosexual relationships, teen pregnancy, and drug and alcohol abuse has become the "norm". As a teacher, I want more for these kids daily. I want them to just be kids and stop growing up so fast. I am not in favor of the GSA, not because I do not think it is important to give these students a support system, but rather because it takes away from the purpose of school. Let's not confuse all the junk that media pushes on these kids and apparently on ourselves, with the reality of what schools and parents should be doing. Glee and Jersey Shore are NOT reality. We have to look to the future of where GSA will lead to. If we open this door, we are not giving the majority of students or the parents an option. We are doing the same evilness that our media is doing by putting this one message in EVERY facet of their lives. Give them a chance to breath and grow up without having a confusing message always in their face.

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LCRIUSA

11:02 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

My goodness. You include 'homosexual relationships' in the category of cyber bullying, teen pregnancy, and drug and alcohol abuse?!? Shame on you. This is just another form of bullying.

j michael

10:29 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

You're the only one who is confused. Football, cheerleading, color guard, baseball, etc. are not contributing to academic growth and preparation for the next stage in life either. And they even cost a lot more than the GSA (no requirement for uniforms, stadium, instruments, equipment, etc.).

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Tiverton Substitute

11:19 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

I never said that those extracurricular activities do not add to the growth of the individual but just as teachers, coaches, and anyone directly involved with the school is not allowed to bring religion into anything that they do or say, I do not believe THS should be allowing GSA in their school. THS is essentially saying that they are in FULL support of homosexual relationships. Call it an anti-bullying support group, but the reality of it is that it will be attended mostly by homosexuals, not diverse if you ask me. I would like to say to J. Michael that I am not confused at all actually. I know for a fact that these kids and parents everywhere nowadays are the ones confused. GSA will not solve the bullying problems. We need to get at the root of the problem, which is the family, which our society and the media has been warping slowly over the past decade. That is for a different debate, but again I think that THS and all school departments need to be focused on educating these students and helping them to become contributing citizens without affilitating themselves with things like gender identity.

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LCRIUSA

11:37 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

You seem to be so right. The school does seem to be saying they are in full support of kids who grow up and find themselves gay. So?

Consider as a Continuing Education Credit making an appointment and visiting the GSA program to discuss your position. Certainly as an educator you have a lot to share and teach. Be sure to invite their parents for proper guidance. Explain to the children the benefit hiding their reality; why they should let bullies, and fear, decide how they express themselves; why , if they are mostly homosexuals in the GSA, they should not gather.; and include why they should be denied any hope for marriage equality.

Explain to the parents why their kids socializing is less deserving of a safe school place than other kids; why their kids are more 'sexed up' than other kids; what they did wrong: why their kids activities have no place in their tax funded facility, why the simple act of forming a support network is so damn frightening.

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Robert Thibault

11:49 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

No I am sorry Mr/Mrs. Substitute, but the GSA is not just Gays Lesbians and such. It is for EVERYONE, straights included. I am unsure where you got your information to say that, but it is certainly false what you are saying.

You say we won't solve the bullying problems? You might be right, but we can try like hell to stop them. We can do EVERYTHING we can to TRY to stop the bullying.

Now you may be right about one thing, It can start in the family. But what happens when the family does ALL they can, to stop the bullying of there kid, but it still continues hmm? What if an 8 year old tells the person to stop, does EVERYTHING there parent says, but is still bullied and picked on in school? What is the parent supposed to do then? They have already done what they can, they can keep trying, but it won't stop.

The point I am TRYING to get into your head, is that sometimes parents are not what the kid needs, sometimes its a group of kids who know what they are going through, Teenagers, young adults, sometimes it is THEM who can make a difference. Which is what the GSA is, a group, a DIVERSE group of students: teens, young adults, gays, straights, bisexuals, who can HELP anyone. Even if they can't fully STOP the bullying, they can give that kid, or child hope, hope that it will get better. So, please think about what you are saying.

j michael

11:43 am on Friday, April 1, 2011

Missing my point entirely! I'm saying that football, cheerleading, color guard, baseball, etc. are "not contributing to ACADEMIC growth and preparation for the next stage in life," so how can you NOT advocate removing these activities as well? This was your argument for not allowing the GSA. But now you're making a different argument by saying we're all misguided. I'm glad you're only a substitute. And GSA is not a religion, so how can you make that comparison?

The FAMILY has failed for years. I'd be willing to bet many of the bullies are spawn of self-righteous zealots and live in two-parent homes.

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Len Katzman

1:27 pm on Friday, April 1, 2011

To Tiverton Substitute (and any other educators out there):

GSAs in fact do improve the educational environment. GSAs should be welcomed by anyone who cares about the education of kids. The peer-review studies and facts prove it. Just a few facts:

--- Students in schools with GSAs reveal lower incidents of victimization and suicide attempts than schools without GSAs, and research indicates that suicidal behaviors are directly related to victimization and perceived adult support.

--- The High School Journal reports that GSAs improve academic performance, school/family/community relationships, feelings of safety, belief in capacity to make societal contributions, and an enhanced sense of belonging to school community.

--- The October 2010 report published by the National Education Policy Center documents the persistence of hostile and unsafe school environments that can result in lower educational outcomes and higher rates of depression and suicide for LGBT students.

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M. P.

5:42 pm on Friday, April 1, 2011

Tiverton sub...
Many of the issues you speak about are not new. I am 49 years old and did not grow up in the cable TV era. I grew up in the suburbs and there were 13 girls (that I knew of) in my high school graduation class alone who dropped out due to pregnancy. Many of the kids drank (and yes... some were your athletes, cheer leaders, and scholars) and there were many kids who would get high and/or do chemicals - even during the school day. Bullying took place on a daily basis resulting in one attempted suicide and one succeful one that I can recall. Who knows what happened behind closed doors that wasn't public knolwledge. My point is that many of these are not new issues and although it's easy to blame the media it's more likely that lack of support, acceptance and tolerance brings about many of these problems. Having groups such as GSA provides a peer support to children who might not have that support at home, at school, or even in their church. Any group that provides an environment where individuals can be free of ridicule and be comfortable with who they are is a positive thing. No person should ever fear caring for another person or looking over his/her shoulder because they don't fit into a specific mold. These are teens who support each other whether they are straight, gay, short, tall, thin, fat, etc. I feel so incredibly sad for you that you can't see the positives in this.

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Watson

5:46 pm on Friday, April 1, 2011

I think Rep. Gordon needs to realize what the purpose of schools are...to educate students. Sexual issues should be an issue schools address. Less educated our students are, they are less likely to succeed in life. Educating students in all aspects, whether it be sexual issues, Darwinism versus Intelligent Design/Adam & Eve; providing our students with knowledge to make their own intelligent decisions is better than prohibiting them from access to additional education.

It is disgusting and disturbing that the less-intelligent commentators on this article assume that just because an organization was the word "gay" in a club/organization that it is a "sexed-up" organization. People who are gay are not sex-fiends. Just like people who are straight are not sex-fiends. These sorts of comments that gay groups are "sex" groups are similar to the comments made about various ethnic groups. Such prejudicial comments are downright "un-American" and anybody who says otherwise is not a true American.

Obviously Rep. Gordon is only concerned with educating students with his limited views. Let's hope voters in 2012 choose a respectable and intelligent individual.

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Shawn Loomis

12:10 am on Saturday, April 2, 2011

I am personally insulted by how this elected official is playing with his words, in his radio broadcast he contradicts himself! A quote from the broadcast via radio stations recording "I am not apposed for them forming a group as with anybody else as long as no ones being harmed. They have the freedom and liberty to form and congregate peacefully as anyone else does." Really? Then he goes on to say he will definitely not be apologizing for his comments. I know I'm not the only one noticing how he is doing this, contradicting what he says yet standing by that he will definitely NOT be apologizing. I'm thankful the news has picked this atrocity up, I'm thankful for everyone here who supports the GSA and the Tiverton High School in this stand. Sorry for this rant, he seems to have struck a personal nerve of mine with his intolerable actions, his contradictions are getting rather pathetic now and should NOT be coming from someone in his position.

Thank you for reading this rant, just felt the need to get it out. I stand by what I say, Mr.Gordon seems to be having problems doing so.
-Shawn Loomis

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Proud teacher

8:21 am on Saturday, April 2, 2011

Please educate yourself Mr. Gordon. I did. This group is a support group to help SUPPORT teens, not get "sexed-up" good grief what a ridiculous term. Maybe we should ban Alateen, too. Maybe talking about alcoholism will make those kids alcoholic. Maybe we should ban all support groups. I am very disappointed in you, you clearly have not spent any time at all learning about GSA groups and then have the audacity to discuss it as if you have information on it. http://gsanetwork.org/about-us

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Robert Johnson

9:40 pm on Saturday, April 2, 2011

Uh Oh. I was checking out Dan Gordon's facebook a few hours ago. There was a link to something that looked interesting. After much searching, here it is: http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DbGQawBwyfG4&h=94720. Dan Gordon made chanel 10 news! His Facebook page has gone the way of his Alliance Building Contractors website. Gone.

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Stuart

2:56 pm on Monday, April 4, 2011

I don't think people understand Dan Gordon!
This is not a slip-up, and he is not "just" anti-gay. Among other things, he has spouted similar talking points about;
Jews
Blacks
Liberals
Democrats
The President
and just about every other group which exists!

This guy has been writing this stuff for YEARS on various forums and comment blogs in RI.

In short, he is not a nice man. He is not qualified to lead anyone. He may actually have a mental illness.

He probably enjoys the attention he is getting.

I hate to see everyone wasting their breath on this guy. Some people are redeemable and just make an occasional mistake. But Dan Gordon, if he is 1/100 as bad as his posts and writing have indicated over the years, is not on the same level as the regular folks here. Even old Joe Sousa is a human being! Dan, most assuredly, is not (at least currently).

So, impeach him or sue him or take other actions....you are not going to "teach" him anything, his ideologies are burned into his brain.

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Average Joe

3:19 pm on Monday, April 4, 2011

I am not in favor of what Rep. Gordon has said, but what is the impeachable offense?? What will you sue him for? What law did he break?

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Stuart

3:23 pm on Monday, April 4, 2011

I don't know the insides of RI laws and politics, but sometimes recalls or impeachments are possible if a representative loses the basic faith of the people. Someone else will have to weigh in on that way.
In terms of suing - well, anyone can sue anyone else for anything! Some elected officials have immunity - again, a question for the more knowledgeable in RI law.
My point is that the guy is not going to change and that this was not a mistake. You are seeing just a very small part of the DEEP personal defects of this man.

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Average Joe

3:29 pm on Monday, April 4, 2011

I think elections usually clear out these types of individuals.

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Robert E

4:57 pm on Monday, April 4, 2011

In Rhode Island only The governor, lieutenant governor, secretary of state, attorney-general and general treasurer, may be subject to recall election. An Official may be recalled if arrested for a felony, convicted of a misdemeanor or found to have broken the code of ethics.

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