Rep. Dan Gordon Blasts Proposal To Place Tolls on Mount Hope Bridge
Rep. Dan Gordon says he will reject any legislation to collect tolls off the Mount Hope Bridge.
The following is from a press release issued by Rep. Dan Gordon (Dist. 71-Portsmouth, Tiverton, Little Compton) on Wednesday.
This morning, the Rhode Island Turnpike and Bridge Authority in a vote of 2-1, agreed to raise the cost of crossing the Pell Newport Bridge from $4 to $5, effective as of July 1.
Also, most notably, the resolution passed by the authority proposes to set a toll rate on the Mount Hope Bridge and refers to a proposal by Governor Lincoln Chafee to toll the new Sakonnet River Bridge.
"I am adamantly opposed to the entire resolution," wrote Rep. Dan Gordon in the press release. "Raising tolls during the height of the tourist season on the Pell Bridge will do nothing but further starve the tourism economic engine of Aquidneck Island, of fuel. Our small businesses, the life-blood of the economy, will face further difficulty surviving, should this grab at revenue generation take place.
"The residents of Little Compton, Portsmouth, and Tiverton cannot, and will not, tolerate a revisit to the failed past practice of tolling the Mt. Hope Bridge, in addition to possible tolls on the Sakonnet River Bridge.
"Rhode Island already has one of the highest rates of taxation across the board in the entire country, and we refuse to participate in a failed scheme that continues to demand more of our dollars thrown into a swirling vortex of fiscal mismanagement. There are viable solutions to our roadway infrastructure problems.
"This isn’t it. I can assure my constituents that I will do everything within my power to quash this onerous proposal to milk the taxpayers of every last drop. Enough!"
Island Porkrunner
11:49 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
add to the gas tax or inspection fees, but please don't penalize us for living on the island
Island Porkrunner
11:49 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
also we never leave the island as it is - now towns like Tiverton, Bristol, Jamestown can forget to see folks from Newport spend any money in their communities.
Dan D
12:43 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
ditto us spending money in yours. My dentist is in Middletown, you really think I will go there if there is a Sak bridge toll? nope, which means I won't stop at the Subway either, nor stop at the Middletown Best Buy or Job Lot. Head to the Newport Policeman's parade? nope, not any more if there is a Sak bridge toll. I also drive through to NK a couple times a month, if I have to pay TWO tolls, you can forget it, and often I will stop for gas, a sandwich, coffee or whatever. It is cheaper to drive around at $4 for the Pell, now? forget it. never happen. sorry Island, you are now truly on an island.
East side
12:04 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
The bridge authority needs to keep the money it earns and put it back into the bridges for maintenance, etc. and not rely on the State for funding. The current model has worked, these bridges are in great shape. This maintenance is what is needed to keep our bridges up. Unlike state funds that were supposed to be used to keep the escape bridge maintained in the Hummocks, this never happened and it is now closed. A major safety concern for those in that area should a major weather system develop.
Dan D
12:47 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
great shape? have you driven over any of these bridges recently? They are barely better than dirt roads!
Just Another Taxpayer
12:12 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Mr. Gordon, nobody cares about you or what you have to say.
Ryanthegirl
11:22 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
I do he is still my rep
Gerry Jones
1:13 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012
He's mine, too. Utterly useless, never returns calls and doesn't go the assembly when they have important bills to vote on. Complete waste of time- I can't wait to vote someone else.
Born and Raised in the Tiv
3:07 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012
Yup, vote someone else in and then just keep on complaining!!
Joe Sousa.
12:18 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Privatize RIPTA and put the gas tax back where it was intended to be . The Tax and Spend Liberals have really screwed this state up.
East side
12:22 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Joe - "Privatize RIPTA and put the gas tax back" ?? Not sure how this relates to the bridge toll. Anyway, if RIPTA went private there is no way the current routes and schedules would remain a fluent as they are today. Putting gas tax back in the general pot to fund funds in reserve is how the process works so this is a matter of the effect of the cause.
Joe Sousa.
12:30 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
The Gas tax was created to fund road repairs . The legislature changed that. That is why our bridges are falling down. End the free rides and fix the roads. The Mount Hope should be given back to DOT for repairs and maintenance. Keep the Toll on the Newport till it is paid for then turn it over to DOT.
The Shill
7:14 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Joe you want to take public transportation and make it private then you want to take two private bridges and make them public. The Mt Hope and Newport bridges are not owned by the state but by a private concern the RITBA. The RITBA is not a state agency the Governer appoint the bord but it is not a state agency and the two bridge are not owned by the state so you are paying a private concern to use their bridges it would be no different then taking a private bus or a private ferry.
Joe Sousa.
6:24 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
The original plan was to turn the bridges over once they were paid for. People buy the Bonds we sell for repairs on the high ways . Do they own RT 95 ?
Learn your history .
DownTown
6:54 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Shill, RIBTA can't put a toll on the Mt Hope without the legislature's approval so they really don't own the bridges. They maintain them under the auspices of the State. It's no different from the Airport Corporation, they wouldn't exist without the state.
The Shill
10:26 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
The electric company or the phone company cant raise rates with out the states approval and they are not owened by the state is all in the way they are incorpareted. These bridges are not owened by the state or the governer would not have to sell the new dridge to the RITBA so I guess they do own the bridges.
DownTown
10:41 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
RIBTA was created by the state and is run by the state. If they truly were a private company they would be operating bridges all over the country.
End of story.
dridges? incorpareted.? owened?
East side
12:39 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
No, no, no, - the bridge authority is a quasi-private/gov't organization. The money they make, they keep and this is used to fund the repairs, etc. The DOT has done a terrible job keeping up the roads, bridges, etc. and the way the funds are routed about the funds never make it to the roads, bridges, etc. This needs to change but until then, lets keep our bridges maintained so that we can travel freely about the State.
TAMORI
1:01 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
How about taxing, or charging a toll, to the vessels that go UNDER the bridge?
Islander for life
1:18 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
They should impose a toll, as previously mentioned, on Rt. 95 at the CT?/ RI border. If you travel down Rt.95 you have to pay a toll when entering NY and you haven't even gone over a bridge yet! Also traveling down the NJ turnpike is not a cheap thing to do either! Also head north and there are tolls at the NH border and Mee borders. They do this so EVERYBODY has to pay, not just a bunch of locals who call Aquickneck Island there home!
Dan D
3:15 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
there is no toll in NY, only on the bridges, and only northbound
time 2 go
1:22 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
I think most of the money raised by tolls pays for the big inflated pensions the past RI Turnpike & Bridge Authority directors etc.
Jim L
2:48 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
do it the easy way, just make folks with easy passes pay, don't even tell them! just put the camera,s up at all the bridges but disguise them, or at every stop light, we can get a load of money fast that way and also commit highway robbery, one mile corner easy pass, 2 mile of course, raytheon, thats a money maker, lets get the guy doing the duck bill in on this
Average Joe
7:50 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Can someone clarify the potential options for me? I have read/heard several different scenarios regarding the three bridges that serve our island. First option was raising the toll on the newport bridge and also putting a toll on the Mount Hope bridge. The second was not to raise the toll on the newport bridge, but put a toll on the new Sakonnet bridge. Also, can all three bridges be tolled? I thought that there had to be a free way on and off the island?
Mary Martin
8:13 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
I would like a question answered in regards to tolls on the 3 (three) bridges. I have read and been led to believe that there had to be one FREE way off and on the island. Is this true or not? If true, how can they put tolls on all 3 bridges? The talk was a $5.00 toll on Sakonnet River Bridge. How can they put that much on it? It isn't that long a bridge. Tapan Zee in NY is certainly longer and only either $4 or $5. Yes, you only have to pay one way but you still have to pay if going east on the bridge. Lake Ponchitrain (spelling) in Louisiana is approximately 23 miles long and only $5! Come on RI what's going on? Aren't we "taxed" enough? Wouldn't be so bad if the tax money was put where it's suppose to go as stated when talked about but never seems to be used for what is originally stated.
DownTown
8:28 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
I've also heard that they can't 'toll an island in' so to speak but I'm never seen what that's based on.
Maybe 3 months ago there was a projo article that said the DOT wants to sell the Sakonnet to RIBTA (they'd issue bonds to pay the DOT) and with the proceeds the DOT will fix the 600+ other bridges in the state that most of us never use.
Projo's archives aren't free anymore so I can't pull that up but I remember it clearly.
In order to put a toll back on the Mt Hope the GA would have to authorize it so the local reps can stop at least that.
Funny there are two bridges leading to Cape Cod and neither has a toll.
The state doesn't spend squat in the East Bay and they want us to pay for the bridges in the rest of the state now.
The Shill
10:22 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
George Washington, Bayonne & Goethals bridges in NY have a toll of $12.00 cash @$7.50 to $9.50 using ez pass newport is less then a dollar if you use ez pass. Yes they can toll all three bridges if you want a free way on or off the islan buy a boat. People who live on block island, Prudence island or Hog island have to pay a ferry every time the want to leave the island and only when the ferry is running. You want to live on an island thats part of life.
DownTown
10:26 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
You are wrong.
They can't toll the Mt Hope without authorization from the state. It was the state who made them take the toll off and the only way they can toll it again is if the state lets them.
If they actually owned the Mt Hope the state wouldn't have any say in it.
Brian M
11:13 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
the washington bridge
Brian M
11:22 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
The Providence to East Providence bridge on 195 was just rebuilt. Same situation as the Sakonnet bridge. Lots of traffic and a great source of revenue. If you choose to commute over that bridge, then shouldn't a toll be paid just as people that choose to live on Aquidneck Island are being asked to pay.It is exactly the same situation. If enough bridges are tolled, then the cost will be minimal and ALL users will pay. Fees and tolls are a bad idea for existing bridges. Are they going to toll the escape bridge in Portsmouth? It fell apart and needs to be rebuilt. Same as Sakonnet bridge. Raise toll on the Pell Bridge and leave the rest alone.
The Shill
4:09 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Under Title 23 of the United States Code (Highways), there is a general prohibition on the imposition of tolls on Federal-aid highways
DownTown
4:20 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
They just have to request permission for a toll on Federal roads. The Feds recently approved a toll on 95 in Virginia so obviously there is no prohibition on tolls.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/va-can-move-ahead-with-i-95-tolling-plan-feds-say/2011/09/19/gIQAaRELgK_story.html
Joe Sousa.
4:31 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Down Town, I heard it's not that easy to get authorization since we receive federal funds already . Tolls are the wrong direction to go in any where in our state.
DownTown
4:38 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Every state gets Federal funding.
The FHWA wants cars to pay by the mile driven eventually which would be a hell of a lot worse than a toll road imo.
Tolls are the mindset of the idiots that run our state. We are the opposite of New Hampshire with its low unemployment and low taxes.
East side
12:07 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Love the photo of Dan in this article. Not sure what he is looking at but he should point forward for further effect.
Breeze McIntosh
5:07 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Maybe a billowing American flag behind him as well!!
Gerry Jones
7:13 am on Saturday, February 11, 2012
That photo was taken the day he was lying about his military record, claiming all of his problems stem from PTSD and a "wound" 8 miles outside of Bagdad. What a piece of work!
DownTown
4:49 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Think about the money spent on projects in other parts of the state. The millions that have been poured into Quonset Point and the access roads. Taxpayers pay for the $48 million dollar bond that revamped the area, the QDC made a single payment a few years back.
Nearly $30 million for a new West Bay train station. Nearly a billion $$ for the new 'i-way'.
Central Falls gets $40 million a YEAR in state aid. That's more aid than Newport County and Bristol county get combined. Every 4 years we give Central Falls as much money as the new Sakonnet bridge will cost to build.
Where is their toll?
Never mind the obvious screwing we'll be getting paying to fix the other 600 bridges in the state - think about how the state screws this part of the state on a regular basis already.
Joe Sousa.
5:18 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
DownTown, your wise beyond your years.
Gerry Jones
5:08 pm on Saturday, February 11, 2012
Dan, do us all a huge favor and resign. You are a do-nothing-irrelevant-ink hound. Spare us, your constituents, any more embarrassment and just go away.
Dylan
1:21 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
I sent a letter to Dan Gordon and he has stated to me that he is against the toll and will be looking into the constitutionality of this toll since it seems to conflict with the uniformity clause of the constitution check out the letter i sent on my blog against this unfair toll here: http://tiverton.patch.com/blog_posts/stop-the-toll-on-the-sakonnet-river-bridge