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Schools Don't Get the Money; Voters Reject Referendum

An effort to give the schools $765,301 is rejected by 57% of Portsmouth voters.

 

Voters chose to not restore $765,301 to the school department's budget in Tuesday's special election. Fifty-seven percent of Tuesday's voters rejected the effort to give the schools more money.

The final tally of votes was 2,198 for Option 1 (to leave the budget alone) and 1,690 for Option 2 (to increase the budget).

Option 1 read, "1. The Portsmouth Town Council appropriation for the School Department Budget shall remain unchanged in the amount of $35,527,720.00."

Option 2 read as follows, "The Portsmouth Town Council appropriation for the School Department Budget shall be increased by $765,301.00 to a total appropriation of $36,293,021.00."

A copy of the special election ballot is attached at right.

Voters turned out in large numbers to maintain property taxes at current rates and keep the school budget unchanged.

According to Madeleine Pencak, registrar of voters, the voter turnout was 29 percent. The voter turnout at the September primary was 14 percent.

"The voters absolutely have spoken," said Larry Fitzmorris, president of the Portsmouth Concerned Citizens (PCC). "It (the result) was not close. The idea of raising taxes in the worst recession this country has seen was not an option."

If approved, the referendum would have authorized a total school budget of about $36.3 million. The referendum would have also resulted in an increase in taxes of about 20 cents per thousand dollars of assessed value, or an additional tax hike of $71.44 annually for a $350,000 home.

The push for the referendum was mainly led by the independent group, Save Our Schools (SOS).

Looks of disappointment were expressed by members of the SOS group at Town Hall Tuesday evening. 

"I'm sad, but I'm not shocked," said Dave Croston, founder of the SOS. "I think it was of a margin we have to take notice and it would be my hope that people take note of the facts and make sure that during the General Election, people who put out facts that were not accurate, are held accountable." 

"Portsmouth's educational future is at risk right now. It will take years to recover from this short amount of money."

"I think people were misinformed," said Rep. Amy Rice.

Led by School Committee candidate Croston, SOS began back in early August advocating for a referendum after the Town Council adopted its budget.

The SOS held a referendum rally, which was met by supporters and protesters at the corner of Turnpike Avenue and East Main Road. 

SOS also held Sign & Drive campaigns at the transfer station and Portsmouth High School. The volunteers also canvassed neighborhoods and even Sandy Point Beach for signatures.

After weeks of hard work, the SOS were able to collect more than enough signatures (over 2,000 names) required for a special election. The cost to hold a special election, including fees for mailings and ballots, ranged between $16,000 to $20,000, according to Pencak.

There was also opposition to the referendum. The PCC blanketed the town this past week with signs asking for residents to vote "no" on the special election ballot.

"The PCC worked very hard on this," Fitzmorris said. "Both sides worked hard ... We salute the people who went out and gathered signatures for this. We salute them, we just didn't agree with them. I think the reality was that the people weren't ready for this."

The following are the results on how each precinct voted (Yes to increase the budget; No to leave it alone).

Precinct 2701 (Prudence Island Fire Station) — No: 51; Yes: 6

Precincts 2702 and 2703 (Portsmouth Multi Purpose Senior Center, 110 Bristol Ferry Road) — No: 373; Yes: 270

Precincts 2704 and 2705 (Common Fence Point Community Hall, 933 Anthony Road) — No: 352; Yes: 197

Precincts 2706, 2707 and 2708 (Portsmouth Town Hall, 2200 East Main Road) — No: 604; Yes: 514

Precincts 2709, 2710 and 2712 (Aquidneck Island Christian Academy, 321 East Main Road) — No: 818; Yes: 703

Related Topics: Ballot, Referendum, School Budget, School Spending, Special Election, Town Budget, Voter Turnout, and Voting
What do you think about the special election results? Tell us in the comments.

Dan Gordon

9:16 pm on Tuesday, October 5, 2010

What a great day! The sleeping giant has awoken! We will no longer sit by idle, while the special interest tools have their way with our pocket books!

Vote on November 2nd for Dan Gordon
Candidate for RI House of Reps., Dist. 71

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Susan Lewis

9:18 pm on Tuesday, October 5, 2010

Special interests absolutely did get their way... just ask the selve serving members of the PCC.

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Kamakazee

9:04 am on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

anyone who votes for you is an idiot!

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Portsmouth Concerned Citizen

12:56 pm on Thursday, October 7, 2010

Everyone! A cheer for Dan's campaign!!!

Gimme a Deeeee
Gimme an Oooooo
Gimme a Peeee
Gimme an Eeeeee

What's that spell??? :)

Susan Lewis

9:16 pm on Tuesday, October 5, 2010

I am so incredibly saddened that 2,198 adults in our community do not care about the education the children in Portsmouth will receive once the cuts really begin. I hope this is a wakeup call and the Republicans running for office in November, who have publicly stated their animosity toward our school system, never make it through the doors of the Portsmouth Town Hall. Enough is enough and we NEED to do what is right come November. The PCC is on a mission to decimate our schools. Are we really just going to stand by and let them destroy the futures of the children of Portsmouth? I certainly hope not.

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Dan Gordon

10:05 pm on Tuesday, October 5, 2010

We love our high performing school system, that spends approximately $5,000 a year per student than demographically similar Dartmouth! We DON'T like the subversion of the NEA, via the front group SOS, to strong-arm us for pay and benefits increases.

Behave and act right, and all will be good. The same that we ask of children.

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Susan Lewis

10:21 pm on Tuesday, October 5, 2010

You cannot compare any school system in Rhode Island to the ones in Massacusetts. There are many differences between Rhode Island and Massachusetts. One difference, for instance, is that in Massachusetts school systems can initiate both pay to ride and pay to play policies (two very expensive line items)... we cannot do either in Rhode Island.
If "behaving and acting right" requires that I blindly spew false data that supports my position... then I prefer to do the opposite.

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Heather

7:06 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

Why can we not have a pay to play system in Portsmouth???
Westport, MA takes a deposit on school books and if returned all is refunded. If book is lost or destroyed the deposit is lost.
Children interested in sport programs can particiapte in fundraising to cover the cost or parents can pay for it out of pocket.
I think these are innovative ideas that teach students to work hard for what is important to them. What excellent life lessons!!! Can you imagine how incredible a society we would be if more children had a strong work ethic?

That all said I think Mr. Dan Gordon has shown a great deal of immaturity and lack of respect to the taxpayers of this town in his comments here and he will not be counting my vote this year.

However, I think an open mind is our best tool in solving these issues and helping our kids! Let's think outside the box, get creative and help our kids the best way not just the easiest way!

Anne T

9:37 pm on Tuesday, October 5, 2010

Time for the Teacher's Union (monopoly) to wake up and join the real world where people PAY for their family's health insurance - if they're lucky enough to have any at all. BTW, 2040 hours of work is a FULL time job - not what our teachers work. PROFESSIONALS work until the job gets done - not clocking out in early afternoon and taking the summer off. Why are there ANY high school dropouts in Portsmouth? Why are there ANY failing grades? Who is failing - the child or the teacher who couldn't do their job ... oh, yeah - right ... time for their Union required "break" ... & forget about help outside of their core hours ... The teachers' hands are tied. This isn't Ford Motors - we're not banging out an Edsel under the shop steward's roving eye ... we're creating our future! If we can't make education work in the town like Portsmouth, what chance does a community like Central Falls or Woonsocket have?

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Susan Lewis

10:09 pm on Tuesday, October 5, 2010

Let's not talk about that fact that you need to have more college education to teach than any "professional" job in corporate america... let's not talk about the fact that teachers make far less than the corporate jobs that DO require education... let's not talk about the fact that teachers bring home work with them every night whether it's papers to grade, lesson plans to revise,or even researching ways to help that one student who just doesn't fit the mold... let's not talk about the fact that education is a partnership between parents and teachers and teachers cannot do it alone... and MOST OF ALL... let's not talk about the fact that here in Portsmouth there at least 2,100 adults who have certainly thrown out the "it takes a village" attitude and live and die by the "what's in it for me" attitude...

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Dan Gordon

10:20 pm on Tuesday, October 5, 2010

Thank you to SUSAN LEWIS for revealing to all, that's it's NOT about having enough funding for extra-curricular programs as SOS claimed, but TEACHER COMPENSATION!

Screen capture completed, and to be distributed! Thank you Ms. Lewis.

Vote for an individual of integrity and an eye for detail! Dan Gordon for House of Reps, District 71, on November 2nd!

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Kamakazee

10:52 am on Thursday, October 7, 2010

DAN GORDON SAYS:
Vote for an individual of integrity and an eye for detail! Dan Gordon for House of Reps, District 71, on November 2nd!

Integrity?!?!?! you are the only person in this world that would run for an elected office but turn around and bash people on a public website. Just what we need another narrow minded politician who does not allow for other people to have a different opinion. We dont need a rep that sits around his house all day on websites personally attacking people because they have a different opinion.

Dan Gordon

11:05 pm on Tuesday, October 5, 2010

Yes, Sue...it is all opinion. Tell you what...come clean about the TRUTH, and I'll shut down my business if elected...I'll work TRIPLE TIME for the $14K /year paid by the taxpayers for a part-time legislator. Here it is in writing...all you have to do is tell the truth and the deal is done!

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Susan Lewis

11:24 pm on Tuesday, October 5, 2010

What is it that you want me to tell the truth about? I'm not sure what TRUTH it is that you think I am hiding. I think you might want to consider shutting down your business, whether elected or not, and take some time off to relax. You are clearly wound up in conspiracy theories. You tell me what "truth" it is you want me to come clean about... and if it is factual... I will be more than happy to do so. Also... I am still waiting on your answers to my logical questions.

Eric Watt

11:43 pm on Tuesday, October 5, 2010

The people of Portsmouth have spoken and their vote should be celebrated today. Unlike the rest of us in Corporate America the employees of Portsmouth schools benefit from rock bottom self-funded healthcare contributions, the lack of a typical $500 deductible for health insurance, a pension and spending well in excess of inflation. I ask any citizen of Rhode Island to tour the facilities of all other school districts in the state versus Porstmouth as well as the funding of this school system compared to others in the state and then conclude if this school district is needy. Just like virtually every other problem in this state lack of fiscal responsiblity goes back to the greedy needs of a union. In this case the Teacher's Union. If the Portsmouth school system was run like Corporation, spending would need to be controlled, and accountability would be required for performance and in the long run our students would benefit. No longer would union employees hide behind, the term tenured teacher. Our students needs and programs should not be pawned in the interest of the Teacher's Union. I applaud a candidate like Dan Gordon, who is concerned about the Portsmouth taxpayer and is not afraid to stand up to the Teacher's Union. He is obviously a fearless man of integrity. In regards to the following quote, please check this candidate's largest source of campaign funding, before voting. The record speaks for itself - "I think people were misinformed," said Rep. Amy Rice.

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Anne T

6:57 am on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

Just wondering ... are retired teachers still Union members? Since many teacher contract negotiations and awards are based on what the OTHER RI districts have approved for their members ... do those contracts directly affect the benefits of their RETIRED members ? If you are an active or retired teacher (or someone in your household / family is) ... should you be allowed to sit on any School Commitee? Does anyone see that this might be a conflict of interest? (Something PROFESSIONAL persons don't engage in... they excuse themselves.) Just wondering ... always open to hearing both sides ...

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Bruce Vanicek

8:28 am on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

I want to make clear one reason this town and many others are in this financial postition and why we fight amongst ourselves when we should be focused on something entirely different. DURING THE 1990's, AS A SOCIETY, WE POISONED 40 MILLION CHILDREN WITH THE SECOND MOST TOXIC ELEMENT ON EARTH - MERCURY! This mass poisoning gave rise to the epidemics of autism, ADD, ADHD as well as other chronic childhood diseases. Our children received this NEVER before safety tested neurotoxin through their immunizations. So far, the brunt of this epidemic (other than the affected children and their parents) has fallen on the special ed dept to care and educate this most chronically ill generation of children we have ever seen. One in six kids have an IEP placing them in special education. We have seen the special ed budget increase dramatically, and yet, it is still not enough to cope with this onslaught of children who cannot think straight because, as a society, we injured their brains before they were two years old. I realize this is hard to accept, but these are the simple facts and we must incorporate this tragedy into the context of whatever solution we need create for this generation. Sadly, we continue to poison children and adults alike, because, while mercury has been reduced to trace amounts in most childhood vaccines, it still remains in the flu shot which the CDC recommends for pregnant women and children older than 6 months of age. First, we must stop the poisoning!

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Colleen Carpender

8:45 am on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

This is a very sad day for our kids and their education!!! I am speechless and appalled that so many people in Portsmouth don't care about the education of the children living here-OUR FUTURE!!!!!! The School System was the main reason my husdand and I wanted to raise our kids here,I think people will think twice now before settling into Portsmouth, I know I am.

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teacher too

2:14 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

I am a former teacher. I know how tough the job can be. But I also know that my family is struggling to keep up in this economy. We have had no choice but to deal with the salary cutbacks and the resulting effect on our lives. My vote was based on a reality check. Our community has to find ways to deal with this economy the way our family has. In truth, it wasn't the increase, which I agree was rather small. It was more the philosopy of understanding it's time to stop, reevaluate and learn to live within your budget. I wish we had the health care benefits I'm working to pay so that others can have it. Show me greater effort...do what we've had to do...pay a good percentage of your health care, go without a raise for 3 years and still keep doing the job with passion and committment.

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Anne T

4:57 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

Thank you for your honesty and your service to children - I'm sure they remember you fondly

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Page Jest

11:51 am on Thursday, October 7, 2010

I'm sure the kids who will not have music, art or sports will be very pleased to know you are a principled person who stands by your philosophy.

Portsmouth Concerned Citizen

4:09 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

I find it interesting how Mr. Gordon finds it appalling that people with noble professions, such as teachers should have decent benefits. How is Portsmouth to attract top quality talent in their teaching pool if we don't have competitive salary/benefit packages? One might think a small business owner and candidate for office would understand this theory. Just to put it in perspective, the current benefits package pales in comparison to that of many other "100% tax funded" positions. Secret service, military, NSA are just a few. Those are also much bigger pools of tax money to go after. After teachers, I'd imagine that Mr. Gordon will seek to minimize the benefits for those roles too, assuming he can find within himself the perseverance and business sense to secure shoes without holes in them first.

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david whalley

4:24 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

Great job PCC, now we even get international recognition for your efforts to gut the educational system in Portsmouth....http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/world_news_america/9046399.stm

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Lisa

4:44 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

Bravo Alan Corcoran! You maintained your dignity in commenting in this forum where others failed miserably.

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Susan Lewis

5:03 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

Should you be referring to me, Lisa, please know that I have an extremely clear conscience in expressing my opinions. I am not running for office and I am certainly not a failure for expressing those opinions. If maintaining my dignity means I must agree with an action that I believe is harmful to the futures of my three children... then so be it. I am not looking to protect my name in a political election... I seek only to protect my children and the rights they have to a positive educational experience.

M Piquette

5:29 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

I'm wondering why SOS felt that it was necessary to spend almost $17,000 of Portsmouth tax dollars for a special election in Oct. when they could have had it on the ballot in Nov.?

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Portsmouth Concerned Citizen

5:47 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

Because of the construct of the legislation, the vote had to take place within a certain time period of the signatures be turned in (I beleive 3o days). The signatures had to be turned in within 14 days of the town budget being approved. I'm sure all involved would rather have had it in Nov.

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Chris Carceller

6:15 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

M Piquette, SOS did exactly what our town charter says to do when it comes to disagreeing with the budget. The town charter can be found on the town of Portsmouth's website. Once the petition was handed to the town, the town set the date. As for the $17,000......lot cheaper than the the tent meeting of 2006 when the PCC gathered their signatures. The town spent well over $70,000 for that.

Michael Evan

6:26 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

Save Our Schools (SOS) is consistently politically out maneuvered by the PCC. Organization and leadership is needed by SOS to achieve its goals. It gets old to hear that whenever the PCC is victorious the SOS complains that the voters are misinformed. Get people informed and get them to vote. Perhaps it is time for new leadership for SOS.

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Portsmouth Concerned Citizen

8:13 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

Are you saying that you want the job Michael? I'm sure SOS can use another participant. If you are sick of it, do something. Our community needs more of that spirit.

Heather

6:55 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

After reading the comments above I just had to weigh in on this situation. I have 2 school age children and 1 more that will be entering our public school system in 2 years. I care about their education and their future more than words can express. I am also a 3rd generation Portsmouth resident so I feel especially vested in this town and its future. That all being said, my vote was no. Not because $72.00 would cause my family serious financial hardship, as it would some of our LIFE LONG senior residents and not because I am interested in PCC or SOS. I vote NO simply because I do not trust those with their hands on the checkbook.

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Heather

6:56 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

I recall a time before I had my children I supported the schools increasing budgets but have seem it mishandled year after year. Honestly, the way our town and school spends money is embarassing. We have a beautiful new gym at the high school but closed a school forcing 10 year olds into the Middle School population. Maybe tet money for the gym would have been better spent investing in all out childrens education?
My hope now rests that without never ending pockets we will see real change and fiscal responsibility in our school department. Teachers deserve a fair wage and comprable benefits to the private sector, that said their contracts are too rich, packages too generous. If we all care for our children let's all think smarter on how to meet their educational needs not just continue to throw money at our problem. Let's get to the root cause(s) and fix it for our chldren and their children.
Maybe if we stopped destroying our town with new home construction the pressure on our towns resources would not be so great? Maybe then we would have roomm in our schools and higher resale value of our homes as we would all not be in each others backyard.

Let's start to restore Portsmouth to the town I once knew; the town that attracted our new neighbors to relocate to. That version of Portsmouth was one to be proud of.

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Portsmouth Concerned Citizen

8:26 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

Hi Heather,

Is it easy to see that you care for the town and its future. Have you considered getting involved with the town's governance? There are many good people in town, with intentions very much like yours. Unfortunately, they aren't participating in the process. The lack of trust and transparency can often be resovled by attending meetings or even watching them on TV. Once you are involved, I'll bet that you have a different perspective.

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Kamakazee

10:29 am on Thursday, October 7, 2010

Heather clearly you have only been following the updates by the PCC and not following anything that has transpired from any of the meetings. Portsmouth has one of the MOST efficient schools with less money then most schools. The Portsmouth school system is a bargain and a much better education experience then a lot of other schools in this state. However the school system is slow declining schools are deteriorating which leads to schools closing. Why because this town is frugal and the school has to work with the money it receives. We cannot close a school every year to save money any longer. The items that the people are against are contractual (teachers salaries and benefits) or state mandated items that cannot be changed in this manner and instead we are taking away opportunities from the children of Portsmouth and it is a real shame.

Scot West

7:11 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

Dear Portsmouth Students,
We let you down today. In fact it was our 3rd loss in a row. Portsmouth as a town has again sent the message that education is not a priority when weighed against an increasing individual tax bill. As a result, you will continue to see programs lost and less help in the schools, and few opportunities to diversify your studies. You will also see more kids in each class. The quality of the education that we can give you as a town is going to suffer. It is going to go down. Oh well they say, we can’t afford it. I think they are wrong, I think we can afford it, I think as a town we have chosen not to.
As a student if you are extremely smart and dedicated to your studies, you should consider private schools or moving, we just cannot afford to challenge you and give you the programs in which you will thrive. If you are not that bright, or you just need some extra help or direction, private schools may not be an option, but you to, might consider moving to a town where you can get the support and guidance that you need – you may not find it in Portsmouth. If you are a main stream student, you are probably okay. There will be a few more kids in your classes, you will have a few less learning aids, computers and advantages, but in the end, you’ll get the education that the PCC has decided that we can afford, we expect it might be okay.
Sincerely,
Your Parents

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Scot West

7:13 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

Dear Portsmouth Homeowners:
Your houses are worth less today than they were yesterday. This trend will continue.
Thank you Larry, Cindy P, Peter M, Dan Gordon, Joe R, Karen G and all of the PCC for watching out for my finances.
I can’t wait to spend my extra $100 that I will save on taxes!
Sincerely,
Future Barrington Resident

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Fast-Boat Frank

11:57 am on Thursday, October 7, 2010

Yes, our houses are worth less today, thanks to the school budget...no, wait. It isn't. Must be because the teachers' union contract is expired, which...nope, not that either. Oh, I get it, the graduation rate times the affordable housing ratio divided by the net gain of green jobs...nope, can't get there from here.
You are a blame-thrower of the highest degree. And I will spend my hundred-bucks on things which I choose to be the best decision from me. Maybe while I'm at the Mall in MA, I'll get gas there, too. Save a couple more bucks. You will, too, if you are trying to make your pay go as far as possible so your family will remain self sustaining. If you are.
At least the School Department knows how to respond to the vote, they are working on a budget cut right now.

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Portsmouth Concerned Citizen

12:54 pm on Thursday, October 7, 2010

HI Fast boat - Not to take a side, but you don't think there's a connection between real/percieved school quality and demand for homes (demand drives price)? Most people don't make that connection, so youd would eb in the majority. If you look at the demographics of portsmouth, most home owners have kids. What is the first thing people think about when choosing a home location and have kids? What most people save in taxes, they may lose in home equity over time.

BTW - If you shop at the mall, you have already demonstrated an inability to stretch a dollar. Not taking a personal shot, but everyone knows mall prices are higher.

Anne T

8:06 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

Dear Mr. West (Future Barrington Resident)-

Your $100 will go alot further in Barrington because the teachers there pay a more reasonable amount of their own health coverage.

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Portsmouth Concerned Citizen

8:22 pm on Wednesday, October 6, 2010

Anne. Do you know what the town tax rate is/thousand in Barrington?

What is the percentage teachers pay in Barrington? I am interested to know. Also - what are the other related stipulations that fill out the health care model? Do you know the deductable? How about the coverage model? Are there restrictions?

Thanks for bringing that up.

Fast-Boat Frank

5:10 am on Thursday, October 7, 2010

Alan Corcoran has inspired me weigh in. Dan Gordon has skin in the game, as he is running for office, but should have let Susan Lewis just vent to the others here who are like minded. So many postings here which equate declining the referendum to "gutting" the schools (leaving only $35M, not Zero) to try to continue the same education our kids were getting anyway. I am not against fair teacher compensation, just this referendum. Obviously the SOS crowd is an "end justifies the means" crowd who believe in speaking up until you disagree with them. Every district voted this down, not a single passed it. SOS, look at your operations model, figure out what the voters already figured out, and fix what is broken before asking the rest of us to push harder.
Heather, thank you for the words which I understand and agree with.
Scot, don't feel free to speak for anyone else but yourself. Your posts are not constructive, and detract from legitimate points your side may make. Although you do confirm my own observations.

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Page Jest

12:07 pm on Thursday, October 7, 2010

Dear Fast-Boat Frank:

There is no SOS. It's a handful of volunteers who gathered signatures and tried to make a difference. That's it. You are wrong to tell SOS to "fix what is broken", that's the job of the school committee.... a majority of which supported the 1.5% increase to their budget.

As for hammering a fellow comment poster, I support what Scot West said 100%. You say his post wasn't constructive, so you tell me, Frank, what did Scot say that was not true? You may not like what Scot said, but he hit the nail on the head.

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Susan Lewis

3:09 pm on Thursday, October 7, 2010

Frank...
I believe that Scot was utilizing the art of sarcasm in his letters... not trying to speak for anyone in particular. I found his comments to be well written and incredibly more factual than anything the PCC has put out.
Just for clarification... The PCC is a "members only" club that run closed meetings (surprising for a group who claims to be for open government). They also charge annual dues which they in turn use to hire lawyers (as in the previous Carulo case), run smear campains, and pay for and distribute flyers that contain fictitious information. The SOS on the other hand was founded by a group of parents. This group formed in reaction to the PCC's first (of two very expensive) "Tent meetings" which cut funding for critical programs at our schools.
Their one AND ONLY goal was and is to ensure that their children receive a well rounded education here in Portsmouth. There are no closed door meetings, no annual dues, and no hidden agenda. The "members" of the SOS are merely parent volunteers who care deeply about their children and wish to provide them with a competative start in life. There is no operations model here as the SOS is NOT a political group... they are simply parents who support and want the best for their kids. Maybe the only problem is in the name... would you prefer they call themselves SOC for Save Our Children?? After all... that is all these parents are trying to do.

bigmanny

6:01 am on Thursday, October 7, 2010

Speak for yourself Frank, I found Scot's post to be very informative and constructive. You ask that Susan Lewis should be allowed to vent but Mr. West is not. The things you said about the SOS seem equally true about the PCC, but I guess that would matter what side you see it from.

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Fast-Boat Frank

9:32 am on Thursday, October 7, 2010

bigmanny, as a proponent of individual accountability, I was (am) speaking for myself. My suggestion was specifically aimed at the extensive banter between a discouraged community member and a local politician, suggesting that he rise above. I did not suggest Mr. West quell his venting, simply that his open letter to Portsmouth kids did not represent everyone and his comments feed the very divisiveness he wants to overcome. I made my vote from information provided by the Portsmouth School Superintendant, as emailed to me. She simply didn't make the case economically, and in some instances convinced me the referendum was counterproductive to proper accountability. I want the school to be properly funded, and was prepared to vote for the referendum if it was the right thing to do. I had never heard of the PCC until I looked up the results of the referendum. Now that I see the rhetoric of the SOS , I plan to donate $10.00 to the PCC in your name today. I also see that the School Dept plans to submit a deficit reduction plan Oct 12th. OUTSTANDING. At least this time they "recognize the right answer when given." Take a breath, slow down, and stay out of my pockets.

Anne T

6:42 am on Thursday, October 7, 2010

Good morning - Barrington teachers pay 20% for their healthcare. Regarding the model, dedectable and restrictions ... I will be happy to call their school dept today to ask.

Since the Town will be negotiating a new contract at some point - has anyone one the School Committee canvassed the state's 32 school districts to inquire about these very questions? I would love to see the results of such a comparison posted on the Patch.

BTW ... Why does a state the size of RI need 32 -YES- 32 school districts? How much money could be saved by cutting to at least 5 Districts (one for each county) ...

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Lisa

7:14 am on Thursday, October 7, 2010

Barrington is a lovely town with a fine school system for those considering relocation. Interestingly enough, they also have higher graduation rates, meet or exceed Portsmouth in standardized test results(if you consider that an appropriate measure), and pay approximately $1,000 less per pupil than Portsmouth residents. The passion being expressed here in this forum shows that we are all concerned citizens, regardless of which group we support.

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Kamakazee

10:38 am on Thursday, October 7, 2010

The Portsmouth school department took the wrong approach on this one... I think they put their eggs all in one basket and really thought the referendum would pass. The way this would have passed would have been to start working with the money they had on the first day of school. Make all the cuts that needed to be made. Parents were not feeling the pressure/consequences of their actions and most likely don't believe that they are going to loose much. Take away the football program and the music and arts and guaranteed this would have passed parents would have been raging.

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Page Jest

12:13 pm on Thursday, October 7, 2010

Reading all these posts, I have just one thought... I honestly don't recognize my town anymore. This isn't the Portsmouth I grew up in, where everybody cared about raising our kids and building a community. The generation that built Portsmouth High School (my parents) would be ashamed of the way things are today.

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Bruce Vanicek

3:43 pm on Thursday, October 7, 2010

I posted yesterday. Does'nt anybody care that we are poisoning our children with mercury in the flu shot?

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Susan Lewis

8:57 pm on Thursday, October 7, 2010

Bruce... I believe you have certainly raised an extremely valid concern. I do care about the points you have made. I hope that in responding to your post here I will not invalidate your concerns in the eyes of those who dislike what I have written. Most of the discussion here has certainly centered around the financial issues involved, but your concerns go far beyond a monetary issue. I have often thought about the recent spike in autism cases and the direct correlation between the high numbers and the use of mercury fillers in chilhood vaccines. I am also aware that the AMA strongly refutes those claims in an effort to avoid blame and responsibility. I feel this denial is shameful and does nothing to help our children. This is an issue that deserves national attention and goes far beyond this small local page, but every small step counts. What can we do locally to help end this poisoning?

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Tarradiddle

10:19 pm on Thursday, October 7, 2010

No offense, but this isn't really what we are discussing here. The amount of children receiving special services in the US were 8.4% in 2007, according to Child Trend's Databank. An IEP can mean anything from a severe disability to speech assistance, so it may not be a true indicator to use to support your case here. Perhaps start a new thread on this under a different category?

John Martin

9:03 pm on Thursday, October 7, 2010

Something VERY interesting to share with everyone. The person here that calls himself 'Portsmouth Concerned Citizen', is also registered here as 'bigmanny', and 'Stuart'. By tracking the IP address, this is the same person that calls himself 'bigmanny', 'mannyfavish', and 'unionteacher100' on EastBayRI.com.

The deceit is easy to see as he is clearly against the PCC, but calls himself 'Portsmouth Concerned Citizen'. Watch carefully. It's only a matter of time before he can't control himself and starts spewing the same nastiness as he does at EastBayRI.com

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bigmanny

9:39 pm on Thursday, October 7, 2010

Bruce I hear what you are saying and as someone who works with children I can see the amount autism spectrum related cases has risen sharply. I do think that here has to be something unnatural leading to this increase. I know from the signs that I see on the nursery property that this is an area dear to your heart. I think the schools need to figure out the best ways to educate kids with autism and they all need to realize that no two kids with autism are the same.

as For you JOHN you are way of base and would not have the IP address of anyone writing here.

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Bruce Vanicek

10:37 am on Saturday, October 9, 2010

Susan...Thanks for your comment and excellent question. Suggestions: 1. Don't get the flu shot with mercury. 2. Educate yourself and others about mercury as well as other neurotoxins (aluminum) in vaccines. Good websites - age of autism.org and nvic.org. Good book - The Vaccine Book by Dr. Bob Sears. 3. Understand that the CDC, AAP, and RI DOH regularly lie to us about vaccine risks and safety studies. 4. Realize that vaccines are NOT mandatory for a child to go to school. All you need to do is ask for a religious exemption. It does not matter what your religion is and they should not be asking you that question anyway. 5. Realize that you cannot trust your doctor because he is certainly conflicted and usually believes the lies of the CDC and AAP. I sometimes (not very often) feel sorry for pediatricians because if they were to face the reality that are a major cause of the autism, add, adhd epidemics, I can't imagine how they would deal with that especially since I'm sure they decided to practice medicine with the best of intentions. 6. Unfortunately, this leaves the parent to decide the vaccine schedule for their child as well as the fate of their health. With some reading, asking your doctor the right questions, mothers using their gut instincts, and not succombing to the fear tactics or bullying of the CDC, your doctor, RI DOH, or the school nurse parents can make the right decisions for their child.

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Bruce Vanicek

11:04 am on Saturday, October 9, 2010

Tarradiddle... Thank you for your sensitivity, but you will find me hard to offend. I would not have posted what I did unless I felt it relevant. In the 1980's the autism rate was 1 in 10,000. Now, it is 1 in 100. From 1992 to 2002 the autism rate went up 1900%. Strangely, between 1989 and 1991, the CDC increased the number of vaccines from 8 to 20, almost tripling the amount of mercury they exposed our children to. The estimates to care for a person with autism over their lifetime ranges from 3 to 6 million dollars. The folks more familiar than I with the school budget can tell you the % increase over the last 10 yrs of the special ed budget and the %age of the whole budget. I can tell you a student in special ed costs far more to educate than the average student. What is really scary, is that these special ed students are being dramatically underserved in our schools and the budget should probably be triple what it is now. Bottom line - if we didn't poison these kids in the 1990's, we would have this high special ed population. There never would have been a need for the tent meeting, the latest referendum, or for this town to be torn apart by school budget issues. We continue to allow our children and unborn babies to be poisoned with mercury and other neurotoxins. If we w0uld stop this, we would have less students in special ed and a smaller budget. I know this sounds like the long way around the issue, but sadly, it is the truth!

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Bruce Vanicek

11:27 am on Saturday, October 9, 2010

bigmanny... You confirm what many others who work with kids have said. If you ask the AAP, they disrespect you and you fellow workers observations and tell you the rate is the same and we are just better at diagnosing autism. This is another one of their lies. Your comment is correct. These kids can learn, have special talents, and we need to figure out the best ways to teach them. I'd like to add one caveat. These kids are SICK! No one can learn well when they are sick. Children with autism suffer from a variety of health issues that mainstream medicine has chosen to ignore. These include: gastrointestinal issues, auto immune disorders, seizures, oxidative stress, and chronic inflamation. When these issues are treated, the symtoms of autism can be reduced and their learning capabilities increased. This is called biomedical intervention. We treated my son with a special diet, vitamins and minerals, and a variety of supplements. This was not an easy process, but as his health improved, his symptoms disappeared. So much so, that my son is considered one of the fortunate to be "recovered" from autism. Recovered means he no longer falls under the criteria necessary to be diagnosed with autism. This is the great hope for all the children currently suffering from autism and related disorders if mainstream medicine could accept the responsibility of what they have done and change their course to one of healing these children.

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