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Portsmouth School Committee Considers Full-Day Kindergarten

The Portsmouth School Committee chairman says full-day kindergarten could soon come to schools. What do you think about this proposal?

 

The Portsmouth School Committee is considering a proposal which would create a full-day kindergarten program for Portsmouth schools. 

School committee Chairman David Croston says full-day kindergarten could soon become a reality in the district. 

What do you think about full-day kindergarten being brought to Portsmouth? We asked this question on Portsmouth Patch's Facebook page Thursday. 

Here's what several users had to say. 

Marissa Randall: It's about time they considered catching up with the rest of the state!

Rachelle Sunderland Cook: Yes!!! My first daughter went to full day in Middletown - more hours of education!!

Christine Lineberger: It makes life so much easier on working parents but it is a long day for wee ones not accustomed to daycare/preschool. They should have full day with a rest/nap time.

Carolann Ferrell: No way they are still babies. They have to grow up fast enough.

Ben Dinsmore: About time. Half day kindergarden is great if you can afford not to work. Its a hassle for everyone else.

What do you think? Would full-day kindergarten be a good idea for Portsmouth schools? Tell us in the comment section below! 

Related Topics: Portsmouth School District, Portsmouth kindergarten, and full-day kindergarten

Kim B

8:13 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

I think it is asking way too much of a 5 year old to go to school for a full day! The school systems are pushing the children way too much and there's not much play time, due to the structured academic schedule. A lot of kids learn much better through play, but that is not really an option with what the system is asking of them. Hopefully, this doesn't go through, and if it does, too bad I can't afford a Montessori school. :(

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East side

11:49 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

Kim - kids need to grow up some day and your assumption is not warranted as your child will eventually be in the regular school system and have to deal with a full work load. full day kindergarden is the norm in America. Possibly, children in Portsmouth are having more issues with first grade since the K program is not sufficient.

Joe

11:08 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

The research regarding the benefits for all day K are the tools that the education bureaucrats make to justify installing an all day K program. What they fail to mention is that the majority of the reserach was done in inner cities and low income areas. In most situations for inner city youngsters who are "at risk" being in a structured caring enviroment is a good thing for them and all day K fits that need. In a suburban district like Portsmouth there is little educational benefit to the children but it does act as a childcare benefit . Call it what is is, extended daycare with a big taxpayer bill of over $500K per year.
Watch out taxpayers. Croston was the one declaring an underfunded school district two years ago and trumped a tax override that failed, however, after the last two years of Repubublican leadership the school district is holding close to $4M of surplus and is on steady financial ground for the first time in decades.No thanks to Croston. He will figure out a way very quickly to spend every dime of it and put the district into dire financial straits overnight. You need to put pressure on other commitee memebers to reign him in and make sure to boot him if he runs again.

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East side

11:51 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

It's these comments that the town has listened too and do not fit the norm but support all of the local businesses that have true day care but call it K enrichment. It's about time the Portsmouth in the very least has the same K program as Middletown and Newport - all day K programs.

East side

11:46 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

Won't happen. Why? There are too many businesses in town that have a K enrichment program and thrive on Portsmouth having a half day K program.

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Louis

12:49 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

How do you then explain that Portsmouth High Schools graduates have higher college placement and higher test scores than Middletown and Newport East Side. Why then do we ned to "match them"? Do we also want to match the horrible financial status both of those towns school sysytems arein. Considr your thought process on this subject.

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East side

1:19 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Louis - socio economics in the high grades has a lot to do with it. Thanks for the advice, i'll keep stating that education is a good thing at any grade. Based on how you spell, seems like you could have used full day K.

Loius

2:06 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Is there a diiference in socio economics from Kidgergarten families to 12thgraders. Do the parents of these children get more educated and receive higher income when there children get older? Your logic is non-sense. Soicio Economics is of course the answer to higher school performance, it is also the answer to why all day K is a waste of money in Portsmouth

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East side

2:27 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Loius - You asked about college placements. Unless kids in K are going to college logic suggests that going to college for those in that age group based on those families in those communities is what plays out. I don't understand how college placement and a full day K program is related unless it's an attempt to change the subject. The bottom line is that education is key and more education is a good thing. Therefore, full day K is a common sense approach. I beleive your approach is a disjustice to the kids in and going to K but supports the many businesses that need to have a less than full day K program. Are you involved in one of these businesses?

Kristine Littlefield-Durant

4:02 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Our family works 40+ a week and our children have been in daycare since they were babies. Children that have been raised in daycare are use to longer hours in the day, no nap or rest time by the time they get to pre-school and know a lot more then a child that has not been in a daycare/pre-school setting. My youngest will be starting K in September & we would welcome full day K program in Portsmouth! If not I will have to beg & plead with the school to get him in a PM slot. Drop him off at daycare in Middletown, have daycare drive him to school and then he would take the bus home to my husband in the afternoon. All that time being driven around bothers me / my oldest did it for 4 years and I hope we do not have to wait another 4+ years for Portsmouth to get full day K program.

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East side

4:35 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

...and to make matters worse, some of the daycare providers are hooked with the school department and "encourage" morning classes. It works out better for them since they can charge more money for before and/or after school care. This is unfair but is part of the make up of the k businesses around town. So if your child is not attending one of these schools, most likey he or she will get the afternoon k class.

Julia K

10:05 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

So then i think this is a matter of intellect. Joe, smartly points out that all day K is not a matter of educational performance, rather it is child care. Kristine seems offended by the dialogue but indeed confirms she seeks daycare. East Side clearly lacks the ability to connect K-12, apparently suggesting that an econicic and social advancement occurs sometime befor high school for Portsmouth residents. So here is the question: do the majority of residents want to pay $500k plus more per year to fund daycare for working parents or do the majority want working parents to pay for half a day of childcare for the kindergarten age children. My son is going to an Ivy league school next year ( proudly a full academic scholorship). I loved him attending Hathaway for a half day and me getting him home for the other half. I dont belieive full day K would have made him any smarter and i think his transition of half day to full day made him blossum.

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East side

7:39 am on Saturday, March 23, 2013

Julia - intellect? Isn't that what this is all about? Day care is a piece of the puzzle but this would beg the question based on the logic above - why isn't 1st grade considered day care? Why stop with k being considered day care? Because the topic is more education and this is a great thing. For those that preach that having your child home with you during the day and not at K, I ask, why not homeschool? For those like me that see a full rounded educational value in full day K, I hope this passes.

I don't see above how K has anything to do with college. Colleges look at high school performance. Parents have or have not the money to send kids to college. These 2 main attributes are much more positive in Portsmouth than in Newport. Socio economics.

Considering economics, were does $500K come from? How are my taxes being overburdened as is since the K classes are half the value than the national, State, and fellow towns. You are already over paying with less benefit.

I may not connect the logic in the statements made by others above. But I do believe more education is not a negative but a positive.

Cookie

12:05 pm on Saturday, March 23, 2013

Well THANK YOU East Side!! I can't even believe some of the comments above. A little more time spent in school to learn and socialize with others has "little educational benefit" and is a "waste." Who in their right mind thinks this way...that more education is not a positive thing.

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East side

12:33 pm on Saturday, March 23, 2013

Cookie - the comments above don't surprise me since there are so many businesses in town that make money by being K enrichment programs. These businesses feed off of the 1/2 day K programs. They are also hooked in with the school system and even drive what sessions (usually AM or PM) these kids will be in. It's a mafia. Full day K is what this town needs. More education is a good thing.

aqisland

4:19 pm on Saturday, March 23, 2013

when my oldest was in K in Portsmouth, my work schedule made us have to have him at one of the local daycares for the afternoon- SO, he got picked up by the bus at our house in am, went to Hathaway for about 2.5 hrs and then got on a bus again to go to Countryside for the afternoon. It was a choppy day and I really think it had a not so positive effect on him. It was not until 1st grade when I really saw him make strides- coincidence? maybe, but I think it was more the continuity in his day and routine that helped him start to flourish.

I now have a work schedule that allows me to be home for my kids. So, for my 2 other children that will be entering K in the coming years, I am not looking for "daycare" but simply a day that actually allots enough time for the learning process that these kids are ready for at 5yrs.

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Dave C

5:54 pm on Saturday, March 23, 2013

Of course education is an issue of quality over quantity. Whydo the high performing independent schools produce educational results far greater than public schools and do it with 150 day per year school year. East Side great logic, heck why stop at Kindergarten age, 1 day old isnt too young to start throwing kids into a room and start teaching them. East Side the ithink the question of intellect, comment above, was directed towards you not the kids.

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East side

7:43 pm on Saturday, March 23, 2013

I think common sense is lost on this subject and is being redirected to sustain the many businesses in town that have k enrichment programs. That's sad.

Dave C

6:00 pm on Saturday, March 23, 2013

East Side, the argument about adding all day K is it makes these youngsters better students. If that is true then the results would show up in high school. Sadly, there is no evidence that suggests that. As for the $500k that is how much it costs to add additional staff for all day K. I dont think you understand how the school budget works, that increase would be half of the increase allowed by law in one year. What expenses would you cut to fit this into the budget?

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East side

7:46 pm on Saturday, March 23, 2013

Sounds like the budget and the budget process needs people with the proper degrees and experience to maximize benefit. Currently, Portsmouth has many areas to drive down costs and increase revenue but the many committees we have can't implement. Bottom line, our taxes are based on 1/2 day K, increase the tax base to support full day K.

Sheila P

8:35 am on Sunday, March 24, 2013

Old Townie, the link from a website does not end any debate. Read what Joe wrote above a few days ago. The studies for all day K benefits are based on inner city and low income children. That is not representative of the population in a suburban district. You really have to measure the 12 grade performance as the benchmark for justifying A longer K program. 12 th grade performance is quite good and better than other ditstricts tha have all day K. The evidence then shows that there is likely little educational benefit

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East side

8:55 am on Sunday, March 24, 2013

The end "product" is not 12th grade or even going to college. Education is a continuous process and compounds during the formative years. Having full time K sets kids up for the formulation of what a typical school day is all about in future years.

april daquay

7:48 pm on Sunday, March 24, 2013

St philomenas has all day kindergarten and it is probably a great idea for the town. Maybe a nap time has to be part of the day plan ,overall a big plus for working parents dont have to worry about daycare and sitters .

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East side

7:56 am on Monday, March 25, 2013

K mafia reality - what's strange is there are good arguments for and against a full day K program in Portsmouth from the comments above. What is sad is that the K mafia (those businesses that formulate the K program's schedule) is never discussed. Also not discussed are those parents that can't deal with their own issues of their K schooler growing up. What I don't get is how does this same arguement stop once 1st grade starts?

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