Portsmouth School Committee member Jonathan H. Harris submitted his resignation on Wednesday morning, only a day after the General Election.
However, Harris, vice chairman of the school board, says the election was not a factor in his decision.
"The election outcome was not a factor at all," Harris wrote in an e-mail. "I had decided to resign three months ago once I reached the two-year mark of my service. Doing so after the election allows for an easy transition of another candidate to be appointed rather than be elected.
"Had I resigned prior to the election, I was advised that a special (costly) election would be required. This timing also allows a new person to come in at the same time with newly elected people so they have time to work together."
Portsmouth Patch attempted to call Harris by phone. A message on his phone stated the user was "not accepting calls at this time."
Harris, a Republican, was elected in 2010 to serve on the board. He says his expanding business is a primary reason for resigning at this time.
"My business is expanding and I have many demands at the office for my time leaving me little time to spend working on town government," Harris wrote. "My family also wants me home in the evenings and I am looking forward to that.
"I have no regrets, it was tough work. The school system’s financial situation has dramatically improved over the last two years. I wish the newly elected candidates well and I have offered to sit down with them and share what I know with them."
On Tuesday night, four new Democrats were elected to the school committee: Andrew Kelly, Emily Copeland, Terri-Denise Cortvriend and John Wojichowski. The electon of these new members creates a Democrat majority on the board.
East side
11:59 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Slick and slimy move. I guess ethics was off the table at the Harris household. He'll have time to discuss during his evenings at home.
Michelle S.
12:19 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I'm confused...if the resignation was submitted in time, couldn't the vacant seat have been placed on the local ballot? How is that costly when there is already an election? I don't understand this at all. I feel like I've been robbed of a vote. Am I misinterpreting this?
J. Lane McMahon
12:21 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
You weren't robbed of a vote as Mr. Harris was not up for re-election yet, he was 2 years in on a 4 year term. I don't think his time frame of 3 months was enough to get it on the ballot in time.
East side
1:46 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
What happened is that this piece of work now can be part of the process to appointe someone. So this makes you robbed in a figure of speach as you were not able to be part of the electorial process. So Portsmouth is the founder of democracy - just not on the school board. That's a shame.
Patriot
12:22 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
More time with the family? A "full two year term???" [Full School committee terms are Four years]. Really, it certainly looks like Harris sees the writing on the wall - he will no longer have a PCC majority on his side on the committee, so he's bugged out.
getreal
1:33 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I think Mr. Harris realized he could no longer use his powers of manipulation to fulfill his own agenda. Good luck to all newly elected officials.
Just on a note: Will we now see a less PCC Klimm....
Town resident for many years
1:49 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Your just on a note would be wonderful to see.
Starting to Wonder
1:39 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
His business is expanding - now that he and the PCC Council have convinced everyone what dire straits the Portsmouth pension plan was in and now they're making changes so people will be investing - and he's a financial advisor, how convenient. I'm sure he'll be right there to help everyone invest and he'll be collecting all those fees. Meanwhile he convinced everyone that our Finance Director had a conflict of interest being on the Town's pension board because he was going to collect a pension? How's that, because he wanted it to succeed? Who had a conflict of interest folks, really? I hope all of those town workers see through him and stay far away.
Town resident for many years
1:48 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Good ridence to bad rubbish!!!! We don't need jerks like him having anything to do with our Town Government. He lost all his backers in the School Committee and Town Councils and didn't want to have to eat crow. He doesn't not have an ethical bone in his body.
Town resident for many years
1:51 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I met riddance not "ridence" but I think everyone gets the picture!
a resident with a watchful eye
3:11 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
When the whole custodian fiasco was going on I said that Mr. Harris was a my-way or the high-way guy. It is quite obvious that he doesn't like the game anymore (after the election changes) and is taking his ball and going home. GOOD! He was in the game for selfish reasons anyway. If he knew he was leaving after two years he should have resigned long ago so there could have been an election...I am very suspicious that the Council will try to appt. someone to the vacancy before the current members leave office. They better not. The voters have spoken. The voters don't want Rattey or Daley. I am just very skeptical of all of this.
Town resident for many years
3:18 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I agree with you. I too am very suspicious!
old timer
3:21 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Just disgraceful. People have always questioned whether he really gave a damn about the schools or just ran to get revenge on the administration for closing elmhurst school and I think this answers the question. His "explanations" don't make any sense. Along with Perrotti, King and Volpicelli he caused a lot of hate and discontent and cost us Superintendent Lusi, her assistant, a Finance Director, Vice Principal Goss and other valuable employees and now that he would have to serve with people like Copeland, Cortvriend, Wojichowski and Kelly who would dare to question him and make him justify his positions with rational arguments instead of relying on bullying tactics and sneaky maneuvers, he quits. The election was not a factor? Please. He really does think we are all just stupid doesn't he? Like most bullies, when confronted, he turns and runs. The bully has left the schoolyard. Thank you Ms. Copeland, Ms. Cotvriend, Mr. Wojichowski and Mr. Kelly.
Town resident for many years
6:36 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I would also like to thank Mr. Croston for making Mr. Harris' life on the committee not as easy as Harris would have liked. Mr. Croston tried very hard under very difficult circumstances to stand for the high standards of the citizens of this wonderful Town.
Gail Simmons
3:52 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Please remember that one person did stand up for the residents and will still be standing with the new majority. Mr. Croston stood firm for his and our principals and deserves a great deal of thanks.
Mr. Harris states, "easy transition of another candidate to be appointed rather than be elected." I'm sorry we live in a democracy Mr. Harris. Are you that arrogant and think us that dumb?!!! Does the lame-duck Council really believe we are that dumb?!!! TRY US!
Town resident for many years
6:42 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
As a citizen of this Town I can't thank Mr. Croston enough for his efforts. He would not be bullied!
Town resident for many years
6:43 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
And Mr. Harris is that arrogant. He will never believe that he isn't smarter than everyone in this town.
SoPo
9:53 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
That is so true. How dare that arrogant SOB for thinking that people should be praised and rewarded for efficiency and effort, rather than passing a breath test? Time to get back to the real puppeteers – let’s watch the Unions pull strings for the next four years and see how we’re better off.
Town resident for many years
10:32 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
@SoPo I don't know what unions you are talking about. But the individuals I know who work for this town and school department are all very hard working and they deserve better treatment and respect than some members of this community give them. And one of those individuals who has no respect for the employees of this town is your friend Mr. Harris. And I am not an employee of the Town or School Department of Portsmouth nor is any member of my family. I simply love this Town and would like the atmosphere to be one of working together for the good of this Town without intimidation and harrassment.
SoPo
11:21 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Well, then- let me be clear. I am talking about teacher unions. The same teacher unions that traditionally use intimidation and harassment to pursue their own agenda. An agenda that puts the well-being of the teacher ahead of the student. The agenda that has pushed municipal pension obligations to a point of no return. An agenda that rewards teachers for seniority rather than effectiveness. I find it interesting that Mr. Harris is labeled a bully- what does that make union leaders?
Town resident for many years
11:35 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Teachers are not participants in any municipal pension plan in this State.
SoPo
8:16 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Glad to see that you have implicitly agreed with my assessments, except for a technical writing issue. I personally do not have any issue with local teachers- they are the lifeblood and heart of the community. My issue is with a union that preserves antiquated employment contracts in an effort to put the teacher ahead of the child. That being said, I can tell you that the term municipal (meaning “of or pertaining to a town or city or its local government”) was used correctly. If I had capitalized Municipal, then your statement would be accurate. Thank you and have a great day.
Town resident for many years
8:56 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
@SoPo please do not assume that I agree with anything you say. On the contrary I can't agree with any of your opinions or explanations.
SoPo
9:24 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Fair enough, town resident. I stated that the teachers unions are designed to "put the the well-being of the teacher ahead of the student". Please explain how this statement is inaccurate.
Distant Cousin
3:53 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I have a memory of many posts over the last two years praising the honesty, integrity, and good-will of the PCC School Committee members who were saving the town. A penny for your thoughts.
Patriot
4:56 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Perhaps, cousin, if you are distant from Portsmouth, you don't recognize the posts of the PCC-hearted Rush-Limbaugh-inspired crowd. These would be the only people who would support these committee members who, thankfully, the Citizens of Portsmouth have shown the door.
Town resident for many years
10:43 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
The posts were probably done by Mr. Harris himself. Either him or one of his puppets.
Distant Cousin
10:44 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Patriot, I always have trouble expressing sarcasm on the web, so please forgive me if my true meaning wasn't apparent. I found it funny that all those who had been praising Harris and the whole PCC crowd were silent now. Where are they now? What are they thinking?
Town resident for many years
10:23 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Distant Cousin, check SoPo's statements and you will get your answer.
A really concerned citizen
4:52 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
This is how we separate the men from the boys, looks like Jonathan Harris is a boy. I can only deduce that he got his integrity or should I say lack thereof from Mitt and of course his fellow PCC members. Than God they are all gone !
Town resident for many years
6:43 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Let them stay gone!
Ultima Ratio Regum
8:50 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
The PCC has been ousted, Mr Harris has done everyone a favor by resigning and now all that is left to do is fire the tyrant Klimm!
Portsmouth Citizen
4:48 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
The town administrator is not a mayor. He is not free to act independently. He works for the council. We had a PCC council so naturally he had to do their bidding. It's his job.
Now that we'll have a different council we should give him the benefit of the doubt and at least wait and see what happens next. After all, the man was a democrat in massachusetts house of representatives. It possible he'll turn out ok.
Roger Ward
9:24 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
It sure sounds like union people that are real sour on this site. This one guy negotiates with your union machine and gets the better deal for the town instead of you getting fat raises and big pensions and you call him all kinds of names. A friend of his told me that he was just hired by a big law firm to help negotiate union contracts for other towns and the state.
chris black
9:42 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I would agree. They all sound a little disgruntled. We are dealing with the generation of "Give Me" not "Work for it"
Michelle S.
10:15 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I am not a member of a union. Not sure what you're getting at.
Gail Simmons
10:20 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Chris Black - If you infer that teachers don't work for their pay (and I am not one and neither is my husband), you are badly mistaken. This is such a tired and ignorant comment. Our teachers are the most important element of our schools and our teachers are on point six hours a day and then planning three hours a day.
chris black
4:48 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Ms. Simmons,
I would say there is a lot of DEAD WEIGHT in the schools. I would also state there is a lot of DEAD WEIGHT in any type of "Union" backed positions ESP the Govt. If you are not performing well and you have hit your tenured mark, you are good to sit there and do much of nothing. Why? Because the "Union" will have an issue otherwise. Teachers are the backbone of the students correct? Then why have a "Union" rep dictate the direction of the teachers? Not good.
I was referring to the Generation of "Give Me" to the kids. Do your children have cell phones, Ipads, Ipods, car, XBOX, PS3, etc..? When we were growing up we had NONE of those. We were outside playing. Parents knew where we were at all times. If they didn’t they would go find us by foot. Parents might want to look in the mirror and see if they enabling this generation of "Give Me"
Ultima Ratio Regum
6:23 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Not quite certain which "labor union" you believe Mr Klimm has "negotiated" with but I can tell you that you are terribly misinformed. Mr Klimm has not negotiated with ANY labor union in this community, as a matter of fact he has spent $30K of taxpayer dollars to HIRE a labor attorney to negotiate with the labor unions! So next time you see this "friend" ask him about that!!
Carl Stow
10:09 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Gail yes you are dumb
Gail Simmons
10:14 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Roger this isn't about unions its about what this last Committee left Portsmouth. We have terrible moral, our quality administrators are fleeing, scores are down, the new Superintendent is border-line, third finance director in a year, Would rather see their name in the law books no matter the cost to taxpayers... The surpluses have been at the expense of educating our kids - my kids! Do either of you have kids in the schools?
Gail Simmons
10:30 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Carl, I wish you had better teachers so you could actually form an argument. Mr. Harris knows he can't control the next Committee and he jumped-ship. He left a legacy of distrust and a system in decline. This new Committee will have the unified leadership to return us to excellence.
Town resident for many years
10:41 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Well said Gail.
2therightinri
6:36 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
A school committee without a backbone will once again cause the taxpayers of Portsmouth to drop more corn than necessary to provide a good sound education to the children of this town. As they do this, the rats will come as evidenced in the vile comments and personal attacks in the comment section of this story.
Distant Cousin
9:30 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
There is a difference between having a backbone and blindly opposing everything the other side wants. Someone above rumored that Harris has been hired by a law firm to negotiate for towns. Great! Harris turns his tough-guy stance into a career and Portsmouth taxpayers end up paying the legal bills for his actions. By the way, what's the status of the unfair labor practice seniority litigation? Do we know the legal costs for the failed effort to enjoin that unfair labor practice proceeding.
Carol Mane
6:42 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
If that is true why did the test scores go up? I am thrilled with the new principal at Melville and I wasnt thrilled with a few principals that were shown the door. I think many of you were sold a big lie from the Democrats. I recall that when they were running things the schools were out of money and cuts were always made to something. My girls have not had anything cut in two years and I also watched the committee fix up the fourth grade experience. The new Super is wonderful, i think she is doing her job and getting rid of dead wood. She has hired hired good people.
Carol Mane
7:22 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Gail, I was taught by non union teachers in a right to work state. They taught me to state the obvious clearly. They also taught me not to argue with a skunk as I will just end smelling like them. My earlier comment says it clearly.
Distant Cousin
9:32 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Carol, did those teachers also teach you to call people names?
Town resident for many years
8:04 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
My grandchildren have not had any cuts since they have been in school. Over 9 years not just in the last two years. And many great administrators have left. So Carol I will agree to disagree with you. And the million dollar + surplus was not from the last two years, so please do not give the actions of the school committee for the last two years any credit for it.
Town resident for many years
8:10 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
@CarolMane, I believe it could be you that was sold many big lies by the republican run Town and School over the last two years.
Jeff Plumb
9:33 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
You all need a nice long hug. So much hate. Maybe his wife and kids felt that hate as they walked down the street, went to the store or on the athletic field. Maybe he had enough. How many of you put your name on a ballot? Many say "no back bone" as they hide behind a pen name. The surplus was found the last two years, so Town resident get your facts right. The uninformed seem to be powerful on this sight. Last point, Jon has never been a member of the PCC. Get over the PCC they are dead in the water and we are all glad for that.
East side
9:54 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Takes one to know one. Also, I never have and never will vote for you as the saying goes "birds of a feather, flock together". XOXO
Town resident for many years
10:54 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Oops! just made a comment and mistook you for someone else.
Town resident for many years
10:54 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
The surplus was not created in the last two years, it was medicaid funds of some kind. But it was not there because of any actions by Mr. Harris. And that is the point.
Carol Mane
9:37 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
My kids lost their music and art for half a year two years ago in Melville school. What planet were you on Town Resident? The republicans put it back to 100%. If the surplus was always there, why did they have the special election to get more money? I think it is obvious here that most of you mean spirited commentators are union workers. Its disappointing that you work the town. I'm sad to see Mr Harris leave he helped our school budget through a tough time and he did what was best for the kids not the unions.
SoPo
9:49 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Well said, Carol. Putting the needs of children over the demands of unions is essential to the foundation of a well-run school system. These newly elected Democrats will try to do BOTH, which will only lead to the unsustainable deficits and yes- increased taxes.
Jeff Plumb
11:29 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Sopo, the SC will have to work with in the tax cap. So we have that in our favor. The TC still has a couple of members left that will not vote to go over the cap. Thank god!
East side
9:57 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
The school cut we should be talking about is how the teachers are allowed to cut time out of the children's education in order for them to have workshops. I talk about the best paid part time job in America. Only in America can we take away valuable education time so that teachers can fit in a workshop during school hours. So when the above talks about taking away art and music, this is only one piece of the many pieces that are being stripped away.
Distant Cousin
10:54 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I don't know why I'm bothering to say this, since we had this discussion at the time of the proposal to have late starts to accommodate the administration's needs to have all teachers participate together in certain training. I guess I still have hopes.
These sessions are not for personal professional advancement. It does not involve getting college credits, which they have to get on their own time and at their own expense in order to keep their state license. As I understand it, these sessions are often for things like teachers barnstorming with administrators about ways to meet new state requirements. When your business got new computers or other equipment, did they teach you to use it on the clock, or tell you all to come in after work off the clock? I don't know anything about your work experience, but for most of us, that kind of professional development would have been on the clock. By the way, teachers already have required unpaid time at the school for professional development.
Jeff Plumb
11:29 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
East side and Town resident,
I didn't run and haven't been on the TC for two years. One reason I didn't run is because of the hate that is displayed on this sight. So..... not to vote for me must have been easy East side. Scrutiny Mr. resident is one thing hate in another. Hate behind a pen name....well that says it all. You have to take the partisan politics out of the local level. Jon was great with numbers that's how the money was found. Pave our roads, plow the snow, Fix the school buildings & work with in the tax cap, what does any of that have to do with Repubs or Dems. Yup nothing. It just gets in the way of getting things done. Instead of coming down on Jon who gave his time how about some suggestions on how to make this town even better.
TAMORI
4:48 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
"You have to take the partisan politics out of the local level."
I agree with that Jeff and I wish it would happen. In a small town like Portsmouth I don’t think there is any place for major political party doctrine in municipal matters. Candidates for positions like town sergeant, school committee, and even town council in a town this small have no business with an (R) or (D), or any other letter next to their name on the ballot.
East side
4:48 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
This site hasn't been around for 2 years so that is a lie. If you can read you would have read that I have not voted for you in the past. Now, should you run again - I would not vote for you. Why - it's based on looks. Call me names, that's fine. At least i'm attractive even behind my pen name. Now try to stay on subject. The guy above pulled a horrible move and you seen to support him. That's terrible. Where are your ethics?
Rosemary Davidson
12:25 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
No matter who the person, or what the agenda, the resignation was poorly timed. Barring personal illness, family illness or strife, personal death or family death, an elected official commits to a term and should finish that term. Commitment is a character quality when things are going well or not so well. It is sad that so many comments are made by people who can't be responsible for them by stating their names. Guess I am getting old but personally, right now I take "the good old boys"!
Barry Stone
4:48 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
For all you folks that think the town is in better shape with the Democrats running it. I would suggest you all check out John McDaid's local blog. Not only did he report on the resignation of Jon Harris, he has the exact copy of the letter that was e-mailed confidentially to the members of the Portsmouth Town Council and the Portsmouth School Committee. If you all think for one minute that the Democrats are a honest group of individuals then how in the world did McDaid get a hold of this e-mail? Last I knew is isn't a Town Council member or a School Committee member. So let's all try to figure out which Democrat sent the private e-mail to a "reporter". Seveney, Buddemeyer, Croston????? God bless the people of Portsmouth.
Islander One
10:27 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
@Town Resident for many years It's not just the medicaid money but also the residual funds from the closing of Elmhurst School is where the money was found and it was the previous school committee.
J. Lane McMahon
7:22 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Well, that sounds mighty ominous...except it would not be confidential as he was an elected official, not an employee. Get your facts straight before you claim conspiracy.
J. Lane McMahon
7:47 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Barry,
Do a little digging....Patch had this news up long before McDaid did. And it would not be confidential as he was an elected official. Not an employee.
Patriot
6:23 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
You are right Barry, the Democrates are all involved in a vast consiracy that you weren't invited to. Only people who respect things like "the truth" and even (shudder) "Science" were invited. Sorry.
Martin Davis
4:48 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Character is also defined by Courage and several other characteristics. I watched Mr. Harris stand up in front of over 100 disrespectful nasty union members all wearing the same shirts of Council 94 and with composure and true professional demeanor addressed their retirement benefits. That takes courage. I was so impressed with his character and composure even though the school employees were so awful to him. What a loss for our town to see him go. Rosemary you make a good point about using our names- I agree- but your suggestion of a character issue over his resignation is way off base. He has dealt with his share of mean spirited people in this town for a long time. We owe him out thanks.
Patriot
6:23 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Sorry, Martin, but it was the Tea-Party-Like PCC that exploaded the degree of mean spiritedness in this town, and if some people lose their elected office becasue of this - good.
A really concerned citizen
10:27 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Maybe King Robicheau's wife shared the news, oh yea forgot she is not a member of the TC either, right ?
Jeff Plumb
10:27 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
East Side you have so much hate. I didn't call you any names like coward for using a pen name but...if the shoe fits. To call yourself good looking...well that's just weird and narcissistic. Try to put the mirror down and get a clue. Check your facts about this site, it was up when I was on the council. You must really hate facts. Oh by the way my wife said I am very cute even at my age..and she is only the opinion I care about on that subject.
clarence
10:27 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Boy there is a lot of HATE in these coments and I presum it is coming from union members I would never want to be in a position of being intimated by a bunch of educated thugs demanding higher salaries and benifies under the pretense for the children. It does not take a rocket scienctist to determine their goals. I gues the only way is to satisfy their greedy demans is to raise taxs and making it difficult for senior citizens living only on social security. Many senios do not have benefits like the school teachers.
Barry Stone
10:27 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
J. Lane McMahon there was no digging necessary, it is called reading. McDaid posted the copy of the confidential e-mail at 10:37am on 11/7. Patch did not report it until later in the day. So again I wonder which crooked Democrat supplied the e-mail to McDaid. When he was asked his response was "I will not divulge my source". Croston, Seveney, Buddemeyer??? Beware Portsmouth. If you think for a minute the Democrats are an honest group, think again.
J. Lane McMahon
11:57 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
I'm sorry Barry, can you explain to me again how a resignation letter, to elected officials, from an elected official is confidential? Please? No email sent to a portsmouthri.com email address is confidential, unless it is in regards to litigation. I know this because just a few weeks ago I was at the Open meetings and open records briefing at townhall. It is an official communication, not private and therefore must be PUBLIC.
Barry Stone
10:27 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
One more thing. Maybe you should get your facts straight before commenting on something that you obviously don't understand.
old timer
2:33 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
The timing means nothing. When Mr. McDaid or Patch or the Daily News published it doesn't reflect when they received it and the real point is it it was not in any conceivable way a confidential correspondence. It doesn't ask to be kept confidential, read it. How does a public offical confidentially resign? Would he somehow no longer be on the School Committee but no member of the public knows about it? How does that work? A secret vacancy on the committee? It's absurd to claim it was confidential. Are you just mad because Mr. McDaid knew before you? I understand you are chomping at the bit to criticize the democrats but for god's sake wait until something real happens! I am sure there will be plenty of real issues and decisions over the next two years about which you can criticize the Democrats on this site without contriving some nonexistent controversy.
Alex G
6:23 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Whatever your opinion of Mr. Harris, he deserves our thanks. What right minded, educated, person would subject themselves to this type of harrassment? Why would Mr. Harris give up his personal time with his wife and children, volunteer thousands of hours crunching the numbers in the budget, negotiate contracts, prepare presentations, stand up in front of people who verbally abuse and harrass him?? I guess he has nothing better to do! I can certainly understand why someone would want to run for office in this town! I also didn't know that the PCC had enough members to elect a town council and school committee by themselves. I guess they have more members than I thought. Could Mr. Harris have been elected by the majority of the town? Nah? If I saw my child texting comments such as these on this blog I would have a heart-to-heart with my child about what is so prevelent in our schools today, the topic of bullying. Now I know where the kids get it! Thank you Mr. Harris for your public service. May you enjoy your precious time with your family and friends!
Patriot
10:00 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Alex - Why would Mr. Harris give up his personal time etc. etc? Are you saying that the very fact that he is willing to do so is proof of his righteousness? If that were so, the same could be said of anyone willing to run for office, Republican, Democrat or Independent. Mr. Harris is rude, arrogant, and a toady of the PCC. His service on the school committee has only served to prolong the PCC-Tea Parties love of divisiveness.
Jeff Plumb
1:09 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Patriot, Jon is "rude and arrogant", do you know him on a personal level? Or you think tose things because you don't agree with his politics. He is not a member of the PCC or the Tea Party. Jon is great with numbers and proved the SC had and has the money to run a great school system. I would love to hear your ideas to make the schools better but for that to happen you might have to use your real name and put yourself out their...
East side
4:30 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Teachers this morning didn't teach...they went to a workshop and the kids stayed home. Here is an idea - consider workshops to be scheduled during the many vacation times or even after school. Teaching - the best paid part time job in America.
Distant Cousin
7:09 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
East Side, you last raised the issue of training during school on Thursday November 8. At that time I wrote:
I don't know why I'm bothering to say this, since we had this discussion at the time of the original proposal to have late starts to accommodate the administration's needs to have all teachers participate together in certain training. I guess I still have hopes.
These sessions are not for personal professional advancement. It does not involve getting college credits, which they have to get on their own time and at their own expense in order to keep their state license. As I understand it, these sessions are often for things like teachers barnstorming with administrators about ways to meet new state requirements. When your business got new computers or other equipment, did they teach you to use it on the clock, or tell you all to come in after work off the clock? I don't know anything about your work experience, but for most of us, that kind of professional development would have been on the clock. By the way, teachers already have required unpaid time at the school for professional development.
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You didn't respond to my questions and now you repeat your outrage over training during school hours. Do you even know what today's sessions were about? Please tell me what it was about and then explain why you think that should be done without pay. Or should I assume your silence means you have no knowledge of any of this.
East side
8:40 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
The substance of the course does not substantiate the means in which the courses are taught. This begs the question - for those that do not have a masters degree, can they go and get it during school hours? From the above essay-I assume you would agree.
Distant Cousin
10:37 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
I assume you are saying that it doesn't matter to you what the topic of the training is, but that all such training should be without pay. Is that what you are saying in your first sentence? I have no idea what you are saying in your last two sentences. Can I assume you have no idea what the training was about today? Please answer that question; it's pretty straight-forward.
East side
11:15 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Yes, that is what i'm saying. So the fact that I don't know what the training was for is another complaint as a taxpayer. This information should be made public.
A really concerned citizen
10:37 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Out their (wow) it's out there ...lol
Distant Cousin
12:55 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
As I understand it, the training was designed to ensure that all teachers are on the same level when grading papers and tests, so that students graded by different teachers are treated equally. For example, all history teachers gather together and grade the same project and discuss their grading so they grade all students the same way. I assume you think that is a good goal. This training is not for the benefit of the teaches; individual teachers get nothing out of that for themselves. It doesn't make them a better person or more marketable in another job. Please tell me why they should have to do that at their employers' demand without pay, and please try to come up with something other than, "best paid part-time job in the country." Also, please tell us what kind of work you do/did? That might help us understand why you find this so objectionable and maybe someone here can point out similar paid training in positions similar to your's. By the way, the training lasted 1 hour; that's all the kids missed. Many parents in this town allow their kids to skip the day before the prom, or cut on senior bunk day, so this seems very minor. Also, have you asked the school department what the training is? I bet they would tell you. In fact, they probably have to tell you. I can't imagine it's intended to be a secret.
The Shill
2:11 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Teaching is a part time job:
I will assume that someone with a “full time job” works 5 days a week 50 weeks a year. That’s something like 250 8-hour days or 2,000 hours.
So we’ll say they are there from 7:30 to 4:00. They do grade homework, make tests, and write lesson plans. That constitutes somewhere around 3 hours a day somewhere around 150 days a year. They also have the PTA, Open House, etc. commitments somewhere around 8 times a year.
8.5 hours X 187 days = 1,589.5 hours
3 hours X 150 days = 450
4 hours X 8 days = 32 hours
TOTAL = 2,071.5 hours
So at the very minimum, teaching is comparable to any 40-hour per week job in the number of hours worked, it just happens to be crammed into 9 and a half months rather than the luxurious 12 month schedule that most employers utilize
Yea it's a part time job alright. East side maybe if you had paid more attention in school you could have done the math.
East side
3:50 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
I said - teaching is the best paid part time job in America. Please quote me correctly. Also, your math on hours is highly conservative. 8.5 hours in a day - are have to be kidding. I used to see teachers actually running to their cars when the last bell rang. the 3 hours at 150 a day - come on. Once the lesson plans are carved out those are used for years to come. Grading papers - didn't that happen in a group session during the last teachers workshop? these numbers are not reality. What is a reality is that teaching is the greatest paid part time job in America.
The Shill
10:10 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
East side don't let facts get in your way just keep making stuff up to make your point. and where did I ever quote you? And even if I did why should I have to get it correct when your posts are not correct.
The Shill
10:10 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
Congress is generally in session between 130 to 180 or so days per year. The current salary (2011-2012) for rank-and-file members of the House and Senate is $174,000 per year. Looks like your wrong again East side the US Congress is the greatest paid part time job in America. Teaching ranks nowhere near the greatest.
Distant Cousin
10:10 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
East side, look, there are 7 hrs in the school day and for most teachers there is some additional time before or after work several days each week. You can't really think that since they had a 1 hour exercise on Wednesday to ensure uniform grading that there is no time they put in during the rest of the school year grading actual papers. Yet, you can't resist saying something so silly. No one is that !@#$%ed.
Assume it's only 2 hours per day in planning lectures; preparing tests, exercises, and other assignments; and in grading and other things. Many teachers chaperone dances and other events, and they write letters of recommendation and other things to help out students. Even if the total is only 1850 hours per year, which seems conservative, how many hours do think the average lawyer, doctor, or other professional works per year? Most of those other professionals get 1 month vacation, not the two weeks Shill used. Indeed, most doctors take Wednesday afternoons off. When I used to caddy, we called Wednesday, “doctor's day.” Some also take Friday afternoons, too, and they go on tax deductible conferences in vacation spots. Are you as outraged at their hours and remuneration as you are at teachers? If not, why not?
By the way, you still haven't explained why teachers should contribute their time for Wednesday’s training without pay. Do you have a reason other than your old cliche? Oh, and I'll ask again, what do/did you do for a living?
Michelle S.
10:10 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
Wasn't this article about the resignation of Mr. Harris? Funny how we always find our way back to teacher bashing.
Town resident for many years
9:44 am on Monday, November 19, 2012
Teacher bashing and Union bashing.
Rick Kassen
10:06 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Union members hide behind psuedo names, bash a former public official who negotiated good contracts with their powerful unions and they complain about teacher/ union bashing. I dont recall ever hearing a negative word about teachers from the man. You union members do a disservice to your co workers, students and to the whole town posting these hateful commens At least have the decency to identify who you are.
Major Tom
10:06 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Distant Cousin: really? Teachers perform an important job and i respect that, but comparing their hours to a medical doctor is just ignorant. Most doctors work 50 to 60 hours per week, are on call thru the night, lives depend on their decisions 24/7. They cant get a medical degree from RI college but you can get a teachers degree at every level there and most public school teachers in RI did just that. There is a big difference in cost and admission from RIC to Yale, Harvard and Columbia dont you think?