Poll: What Does $20 Mean To You?
Unless Congress can reach an agreement, federal payroll taxes will increase 2 percent on Jan. 1, costing the average family about $20 a week -- or about $1,000 a year.
The average worker's weekly paycheck could be about $20 lighter beginning in just two weeks if Congress can't come to an agreement on an extension of the middle class payroll tax cut.
House Republicans killed a two-month extension of the payroll tax cut, unemployment benefits and a provision avoiding Medicare payment cuts to doctors Tuesday by a 229-193 vote. The Senate voted Saturday by an 89-10 margin to extend all three for two months. All three provisions expire on Jan. 1.
House Republicans want the Senate to return and negotiate over a compromise plan. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said he won't negotiate until the House approves the Senate's package.
If Congress can not reach a compromise by Jan. 1, federal payroll taxes will immediately increase by 2 percent. The average family making about $50,000 a year will lose $1,000, about $20 a week. A few years ago, that might not have meant much. But in this economy, it may significantly impact many families.
So we want to know: What would losing $20 a week mean to you?
Share your thoughts in the comment section below and answer today's poll: Should Congress reconsider and approve a payroll tax cut extension?
Joe Sousa.
6:05 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
The problem is the congress hasn't made the needed cuts in order to pay for the Tax decrease. We are borrowing 1.5 trillion a year. The national debt is over 15 trillion.
The question is how far do we want to put our nation, and future generations in debt. The other problem is inflation caused by the debt. It is shrinking the dollars value. That twenty dollars will be worth less every year. Tell Congress to stop the deficit spending. Cut the size and scope of the Federal Government.
Patti
10:27 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
Twenty dollars a week can be huge to families clinging to the edge.
But think- if the taxes are used to finance schools,roads, food assistance programs, and health care, they work out to a lot more in benefits than the original amount.
Math Major
12:04 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
Patty, problem is, this is NOT an income tax cut which goes to many of those things. It's a cut on the tax that goes into the Social Security trust fund. So, what is happening is Social Security which we continue to be told is in bad shape, is taking in less money.
Esther Trneny
6:23 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
I don't relish the idea of losing money to taxes, but let's face it, it was a temporary measure. I'd rather lose the money now, than leave our children facing trillions of dollars in debt in the future.
nptresident
11:28 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Yeah, but how about all of the RICH people who got THEIR Bush tax cuts. How about those BANKS that got bailouts. How about those companies that pay ZERO taxes. Yeah, it's OK to screw the middle class .... ugh.
dennis pepi
7:22 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
The U.S. IS EXPORTING OIL. WTF stop exporting our own oil and drop the price of oil and gas back to $1.00 Gal. Let the countries that we are exporting to, Buy thier oil from Pakistan. And if we ever go to another country to help them in thier war let them pay for our participation in that war. We need to lower the deficit and that is one way to do just that. ( denpp420@aol.com )
Bill
8:49 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Oil is a fungible commodity. As such, there is no difference between Iraqi oil and US oil. The global market consumes the global supply. We consume the cheapest oil we can get from the global supply.
Cynthia Lachapelle Shannon
9:15 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
$20 a week would mean $40 a paycheck for me, as well as an additional $40 a paycheck from my husband. Our total household grocery/cleaning supplies/pet food budget for the month is $150. Yes, you read that correctly: $150. Food, beverages, toilet paper, cleaning supplies, tasty kibbles for my kitties and litter too. All for $150. If we remove $80 a month for each me and my husband, that's a total of $160... MORE THAN OUR MONTHLY GROCERY BUDGET!
Ramen noodles, here we come!
Jack
9:55 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
I'm with Cynthia... that $20 per week is all I have left some weeks
Joe Sousa.
9:30 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Congress got a raise again this year.
Congress is on the verge of giving itself a bump in its annual budget — even as local governments, families and businesses across the country are tightening their belts in the worst recession in decades.
Under a House-Senate conference measure, approved by the House last week and poised for passage in the Senate on Wednesday, spending for the legislative branch will increase 5.8 percent this year, boosting Capitol Hill’s annual budget to $4.7 billion.
The measure includes a hodgepodge of new funding for lawmakers: a $500,000 pilot program for senators to send out postcards about their town hall meetings, $30,000 for receptions for foreign dignitaries and $4 million for consultants —
Jack
10:14 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Gee Joe I thought those were your people !!!!! Put a tax on the millionaires they have had 8 years to provide those jobs the GOP wants to protect
Taxpayer
10:35 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
The tax reduction came from robbing the social security trust fund investment for the year. We can not put this debt on our children and grandchildren. Let the SS tax reducation expire, increase taxes on the wealthiest 5% and buy American. Ask not what the country can do for you but rather what you can do for your country. Did we stop teaching history 30 years ago?
robwk
10:41 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
While I know this was supposed to be a temporary tax cut I pay enough taxes as it is already. How about cutting spending for once....
nptresident
11:30 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
How about raising taxes on rich people? Oh nevermind, they are the "job creators".....um where are the jobs?
Math Major
10:42 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
This is not a tax cut. This is taking money out of the SS trust fund, which we've been told is already paying out more than it is taking in.
If you want to give people a tax cut, take it out of income taxes.
Since the national debt is already MORE than the GDP (all the money that everyone in the country makes) adding taxes will not help. You could tax EVERYONE at 100% and we would still be in debt.
We must have some cuts somewhere.
Bristol County Anonymous
10:46 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
How about the $375 per hour (was $475) paid to BCWA attorney Ms. Mack?
Ms. Mack's exorbitantly high hourly rates are a cause of BCWA's excessively high water rates.
The Kent County Water authority pays it's General Counsel, Joseph McGair $160 per hour, and they are happy with his services. This is less than half of Ms. Mack's rate.
So a poll question should ask why the BCWA directors are paying Ms. Mack an excessive $375 hourly rate (was $475), when Kent County Water Authority is only paying it's General Counsel $160 per hour
Kris Wetterland Jr.
4:14 pm on Sunday, December 25, 2011
Didn't realize this article mentioned the BCWA
M. P.
12:19 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
Tax the rich! They have had 10 years to "create jobs" and all they have succeeded in doing is create record unemployment!
Math Major
6:48 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
You can "tax the rich" but eventually, you run out of their money. Who exactly is "rich" anyway? There is no tax on wealth, but on income. At what percentage is it simply not fair to confiscate someones earnings? 40%, 50%? More? Why should anyone have to pay more than half of what they earn to the government?
I say, tax everyone at 10% (corporations included) with the only deduction being a $40,000 deduction everyone gets.
nptresident
7:18 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
Go back to pre-Bush tax rates. The country was doing quite well back then.
robwk
8:44 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
Going back to the pre bush rates will essentially be a tax increase to all those like myself who started working after the tax rates were changed. Frankly I can't imagine having another few percent taken out of my paycheck....
Tiverton Dad
7:44 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
It means the Republican leadership doesn't care about the middle class. It means that they'll scream and cry and draw lines in the sand when it comes to protecting the rich, but they're willing to play politics with the middle class. The middle class standard of living hasn't increased since 1972, while the standard of living of the top 5% has skyrocketed. It means that the Occupiers were right all along. It means that the buying power of the country's chief consumers is reduced--again. It means that the economy will remain stagnant.
nptresident
8:23 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
Isn't it interesting how the middle class protects the rich? Oh no, don't raise their taxes - raise mine! It's OK because they are the job creators....oy. I love how people vote against their own economic interests.
robwk
8:42 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
We don't have a tax problem in this country we have a spending problem....open your eyes.
Average Joe
9:08 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
nptresident, I am middle class. I am working hard to raise my standard of living. What is my incentive to continue to work hard if the government is going to take 50% + of my earnings? I am not protecting the rich, I just want the ability to get there.
nptresident
1:51 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
My eyes are wide open. The Republicans never found a tax cut they didn't love - except one for the middle class. And yes, spending on 2 unnecessary wars and rebuilding a country that we destroyed has put us in the mess.
nptresident
1:51 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
The top 1% is RAKING IT IN. Corporations pay practically nothing in taxes. Banks get bailed out. What about the middle class?
M. P.
9:35 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
The tax rate on the rich will never be 50%+... that is pure propaganda put out by right wing commentators. If things stay as they are, the likelihood that a hard working middle class person will get to that tax bracket is slim to none (unless of course winning lottery numbers are involved). The middle class is what sustains this country... we are the true consumer class. Take the money from them and we see the crumbling of our economic system and the rich will continue to prosper while the rest of us suffer. No one (including the Democrats) are looking to tax the rich at 50%+... they are just looking for a more equitable system where the rich are not getting richer on the backs of the working class.
Average Joe
10:14 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
M.P., I never said the tax rate will be 50%+, I said the government will take 50%+ of earnings. Also, you are correct, the middle class are the true consumer class, but what you forgot to mention is that the rich pay the majority of all taxes.
Tiverton Dad
10:23 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
The middle class works harder and makes less:
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/06/speedup-americans-working-harder-charts
US workers are making less in real dollars than they were thirty years ago, while the gap between the rich and the middle class has more than doubled. In effect, the middle class are the people who are making the rich even richer.
http://www.businesspundit.com/wealth-distribution-in-the-united-states/
The vast majority of supporters of the Republican part and the Tea party are members of the middle class. Every vote in their favor is like bending over and saying, "Thank you, sir. May I please have another."
robwk
10:29 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
Once they squeeze all the money they can out of the richest folks who do you think they will come after next? Stop spending $ you don't have. I'm expected to do that why are the morons on Capital Hill not?? Both sides are to blame they don't need multi million dollar personal staffs. They want a campaign manager or cheif staffer they should pay for it themselves. They don't accomplish jack anyway...
Math Major
10:40 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
Nothing to do with protecting anyone. Those who are voting for this "tax cut" are raiding social Security.
The simple facts are that we cannot tax our way out of this (and if you add federal and state taxes together 35% fed, %5.99 RI - 40.99 you're getting close to 50%).
Let's tax the top 1% of wage earners:
If the National GDP in round numbers is $15 Trillion, then the top 1% must make $150Billion as a whole.
If we increase their tax rate by 10%, that's another $15 Billion in tax revenues.
We are currently, $15 Trillion in debt.
If this money was ONLY used for paying the debt, it would take 1000 years to pay it off.
Ian M
9:58 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
You math really sucks.
"For example, a recent report by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center points out that before 1980 very-high-income individuals fell into tax brackets well above the 35 percent top rate that applies today. According to the center’s analysis, restoring those high-income brackets would have raised $78 billion in 2007, or more than half a percent of G.D.P. I’ve extrapolated that number using Congressional Budget Office projections, and what I get for the next decade is that high-income taxation could shave more than $1 trillion off the deficit."
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/28/opinion/krugman-things-to-tax.html
Please, FAIL harder next time.
BOB I
1:16 pm on Friday, December 23, 2011
maj i think your right but the carrot that obama is dangle is all people seem to see, that 20 bucks will be taxed as income and when s/s need more money they"ll blame bush.
Math Major
2:47 pm on Friday, December 23, 2011
Ian, there really is no need for insults.
"Deficit" and "debt" are two different things. We are currently running a deficit each year, meaning we spend more than we take in. The debt is the cumulitive total of all the deficts we've been running.
So, if we don't stop our deficits each year, it will take much more than 1000 years to pay off the debt since it will continue to grow.
Portsmouth Citizen
12:47 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
@Math Major: Where to begin...
First, the top 1% account for much more than 1% of GDP. Using your math, the bottom 1% also represent 1% of GDP. Your math makes no distinction between the basic definition of "top" and "bottom."
Second, GDP bears no relation to personal taxable income. GDP measures total market value of all goods and services produced. No one is taxed on the GDP, people are taxed on their income.
Third, the top 1% account for about 23.5% of America's income (2007 figure, the latest I could google up on short notice). With U.S. total personal income at $12.3 Trillion (2010 figure from U.S. Dept. of Commerce), then 23.5% of 12.3 trillion is roughly $2.9 Trillion, and increasing the tax on those top 1% by a marginal rate of 5% would yield roughly $145 Billion per year.
Fourth, the 15 trillion debt figure you cite is not the amount that actually must be paid. That figure is closer to 10 trillion, the difference being debt held by the U.S. government itself. Essentially it’s money we loaned to ourselves.
So, applying the additional $145B revenue from the top 1% to the $10T debt would result in elimination of the debt in a time frame of decades, not centuries as your math indicated.
And, applying the Clinton-era tax rates on the top 1%, COMBINED WITH applying prudent cuts to Federal spending (see, I'm for a shared sacrifice solution) would eliminate the debt in a fiscally responsible time frame, being sensitive to economic consideration.
Math Major
4:00 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
GDP does have a bearing since someone is making money on these goods and services (corporations and citizens).
As far as percentages go, there are two ways of looking at it.
Your way which (I think) is 1% of all wage earners.
My way which is 1% of everything earned (wages and profits).
Each 1% of the total wages earned is the same monitarily, but contains more people the further down you go (less people in the top 1% than in the 99th 1%).
both have merits I suppose.
Your figures (10T and 145B) would pay of the debt in 69 years.
However, something neither number takes into account is that the debt is growing continuously unless cuts are made (something we seem to agree has to be done).
And, I hope we both agree that taking money away from the SS trust fund (as this proposed payroll tax does) is a bad idea.
Tiverton Dad
2:27 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
For a manufacturing economy to exist, it must have two things: producers and consumers. Crippling the buying power of the middle class reduces demand for consumer goods, which in turn reduces the profits of the producers. This is a symbiotic relationship--the producers cannot exist without the consumers and vice verse. In the last thirty years, the buying power of the middle class has been, on average, stagnant. In their zeal to raise corporate profits and personal income, the producers and their political supporters have cut their own throats--or have they? If you look at the last thirty years as equivalent to a generation, this "generation" of producers have raked in the cash. They're not worried about the next generation. Bottom line, if people want the United States to have a manufacturing economy, our leaders MUST find a way to increase the buying power of the consumers, the middle class. This "stimulus" can come from the private sector, by hiring more employes and paying higher wages, or from the government sector, by creating federal jobs programs, raising the minimum wage, or raising taxes on the producers to fund lower taxes for the consumers. I just don't see this happening from the private sector, which means the government needs to step in.
East side
3:39 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
$20 is enough to have some fun at the Foxy!!! See you there...
Thomas
8:40 am on Monday, December 26, 2011
Should be talk about class now or later, I have to say this comment is very classy. Is there where the people with "Class" hang out in a whore house ? If so I am glad I have no class.
DownTown
6:28 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
The Bush tax cuts were also temporary.
Ian M
10:01 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
Iraq, Medicare Part D (with no negotiation on drug prices), and the Bush tax cuts... There's 40% of the national debt.
Taxpayer
10:28 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
Buy American! It will revive the economy, result in increased employment and increased tax revenues. And tax Internet sales. Do not rely on Washington to fix a problem that we created by purchasing cheap imported goods.
Ian M
10:54 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
Yeah, because everyone needs a Patriot Missile Battery and credit default swaps. What is made in America at such a quantity that it can improve the economy alone? Cars? Yeah, that's not working. Focusing on your local economy instead of internet sales? That's something to look at. Simply screaming BUY AMERICAN! Yeah, that's probably not going to work out when everything is made overseas. The simple cost to even refit factories to do it here would kill us with inflation. Those jobs are gone. GONE. We can't afford to bring them back at all. We are stuck with a service economy and we must make the best of it.
Read Stiglitz to get a better understanding of where we're at: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/01/stiglitz-depression-201201
Joe Sousa.
4:56 am on Friday, December 23, 2011
Buy American Shop Local. God Bless America!
Erin
4:19 pm on Tuesday, December 27, 2011
shop responsibly. support local business. don't support companies or brands that employ sweat shop conditions or child labor. don't support companies that treat their employees badly (WALMART) and are the reason for all the imported goods and lost american jobs in the first place.