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Residents Speak Out Against Bridge Tolls, Call Fees 'Highway Robbery'

Hundreds of residents turned out for the first of two bridge toll hearings on Monday night.

 

Michael P. Lewis, director of the Department of Transportation (DOT), opened the first of two bridge toll hearings on Monday evening. 

The second hearing will be held tomorrow night at 7 p.m. at Tiverton High School. 

Many audience members held "no toll" signs. Lewis also encouraged residents to fill out a comment sheet. 

"The bulk of the hearing is for you," Lewis said. "We will be here as long as you need it tonight." 

Lewis began with a history of the proposal. In the 2013 budget, the governor approved the authorization to transfer ownership of the Sakonnet River Bridge to the Rhode Island Turnpike and Bridge Authority (RITBA). "The transfer has not happened yet," Lewis said.  

The Sakonnet River Bridge will be complete in spring 2013. "The construction will be funded," Lewis siad. "This is about creating a source of revenue to maintain the Sakonnet River Bridge and the Jamestown Bridge, and the Mt. Hope Bridge, and the Newport 'Pell' Bridge." 

7:23 — Lewis presents financial figures and how the state gas tax is distributed. Lewis says 40 percent of Rhode Island Public Transit Authority (RIPTA) budget comes from gas tax.

7:27 — Lewis says gas tax revenue has decreased since 2007 because "people are driving less." In 2012, nearly $40 million out of $91.8 million in gas tax expenditures went to debt service, he said. 

7:36 — The DOT director, a board member of RITBA, says the RITBA needs $433 million over 10-years for a capital maintenance plan. The RITBA currently has $370.3 million in available funding, leaving a $60 million shortfall for the 10-year maintenance plan. 

7:43 — Lewis says toll could go on the Sakonnet River Bridge as early as next summer. 

7:46 — Rick Gobeille to discuss traffic impact of bridge tolls. Many in audience grumble and state "we know." 

7:55 — Audience begins to yell "no tolls." Others in audience ask the audience to be quiet so the speaker can continue. 

7:57 — Gobeille says 21% of traffic diverts off Sakonnet River Bridge in toll proposal model. 

7:58 — Lewis invites residents to line up to speak. "I'm afraid you people have not done your homework," says Philip Driscoll to the DOT director. 

8 p.m. — Long line of residents waiting to speak out against bridge tolls. Larry Fitzmorris says 27,000 people have signed petition against tolls to date. 

8:11 — "I believe instituting a bridge toll on the Sakonnet is both discriminatory and unfair," Bill Clark, business director for Portsmouth. Tolls will add $56,000 in travel costs per year for one Portsmouth business, he said. "Why are we here and why wasn't this meeting held a year ago," Clark asks. 

8:16 — "There could be a domino effect on Raytheon, NUWC and the Navy base," says Ray Berberick, a founding member of a Portsmouth business group fighting the tolls. 

8:26 — Chiropractor Ron Marsh of Tiverton says his practice in Portsmouth would pay $228 per month in bridge toll costs. He proposes that, due to costs, a "bronze plaque go on the bridge as a major benefactor." Audience laughs and applauds. 

8:29 — Woman speaker proposes abolishing the Rhode Island Turnpike and Bridge Authority. Audience applauds. 

8:35 — Residents ask Lewis why other bridges are not being tolled. "By federal law, we cannot toll the interstate," Lewis said. 

8:47 — June Woods, who operates a nursing facility, says she's speaking for 400 residents who could not attend hearing tonight. "We simply can't afford this toll," she said. 

8:50 — Owner of the popular Redlefsen's restaurant in Bristol speaking now. "Your tolls adding $8 for a couple for a lunch is way more. They can go to Boston or dine where they live. You will put my business in bankruptcy," he said. "You will bankrupt 20% of businesses on this island, including Newport." 

8:53 — Mike Donahue of Bristol raises safety issues, discussing the fatal crash on the Mt. Hope Bridge this past Saturday. "Why hasn't there been a comment tonight about the safety issue," he asked. 

9:26 p.m. — Residents are still lining up to speak. Rep.-Elect Dennis Canario and Portsmouth Town Council President James Seveney about to speak. "The town government has stood against tolls ever since the outset. The town government doesn't want this," Seveney said. 

9:34 — Owner of Flo's Clam Shack in Portsmouth and Middletown speaking now before the DOT. "With $4 or $8 around trip, they are not going to spend $6 on clam cakes," he said. "I will loose minimum $250,000 this summer, a quarter of a million dollars for that toll. That's a lot of clams." 

What do you think about the proposed bridge tolls? Tell us what you think about them or this hearing in the comment section below! 

Related Topics: Bridge Tolls, Sakonnet River Bridge, and Sakonnet River Bridge Tolls

Chris St Peter

8:05 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012

I Would Like To Retract My Signature From The Anti Toll Petition. I Have Changed My Mind About The Toll. I Think We Need To Put A Toll On That Bridge To Help Pay For Repairs That Are Going To Be Necessary. I Drive Over That Bridge 5 Days A Week Because I Choose To Work Off The Island. It's Time That Those Of Us On This End Of The Island Start Paying For Our Bridge.

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Joe Sousa.

10:14 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Very interesting that Middletown and Newport could lose one third of it's beach revenue with this toll. Those Mass resident could easily go to Horseneck beach in Westport. They just revamped their facility.

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Heather Russo

10:02 am on Friday, December 7, 2012

Hmmm, interesting. I live on Aquidneck island and drive over the Newport bridge everyday. My mother lives in Tiverton and gets my children off the bus so I drive over the Sakonnet River Bridge everyday too. I am just wondering why Newport County has the burden of all R.I. tolls. Who pays for new I-ways and bridges that are popping up ALL OVER THE STATE???

Chris St Peter

8:07 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012

I Was Against The Toll On That Bridge Until I Saw The Picture Of All The Blue Hairs At The Meeting At The High School. If That Many Seniors Are Against The Toll, Then I Am FOR The Toll. The Seniors Are A Dangerous Bunch, And They Need To Be Stopped.

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Barry Stone

9:59 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012

This comment is disgraceful and should be removed immediately. You should be ashamed of yourself for even posting it and Patch should be more ashamed for allowing it.

bigjim360

8:33 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012

I think tolls will be awesome, really, crime rates will drop because those who drive in from Mass will not want to pay to commit crimes on the island. All you blue hairs who keep voting with your heart and not your head can pay up, you get what you ask for.

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Chris St Peter

8:33 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012

8:16 — "There could be a domino effect on Raytheon, NUWC and the Navy base," says Ray Berberick, a founding member of a Portsmouth business group fighting the tolls.

That's Just Silly.

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K M

9:24 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012

I'm a military wife and we would never have even considered living in Tiverton had the toll been in place prior to our transfer. We completely ruled out any area that would require a daily toll. I can guarantee you many military families feel the same way.

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Rachel Scribbles

5:31 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

I agree with K M. I work at NUWC. An $8 round trip toll will cost me over $2000 per year extra JUST TO GO TO WORK every day, not including gas. That is highway robbery! How would you like to make $2000 LESS per year? Yeah, I didn't think so...

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Jeffrey M. Belli

9:03 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Chris I talk to people who work at both NUWC and NETC and they tell me that it has begun, People who have jobs now when they retire there jobs are not being refilled. I have seen many bases get closed and that is usually the first sign of the closure.

Jon L

8:33 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012

Chris your lack of depth in thinking is troubling. Do you know that the state of RI garners 35% of its total tax revenue from Newport County. Restaurant ( meals and booze taxes) hotel ( room taxes ) income taxes, real estate transfer taxes ( highest values in the state create more transfer tax). This is a case of the state trying to take more revenue from us under the disguise of bridge maintanence. Why dont we suggest that they increase bus fares and lower the fuel tax subsidy to RIPTA. That would close the hole that thy say is solved by tolls. There are a million ways not to have tolls and the state take revenue from other sources.

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Chris St Peter

10:12 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012

Whaa Whaa Whaa. Stop Crying About Having To Pay A Toll. You Don't Hear Newporters Complaining About Their Toll.

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Noopawta

10:14 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

@ Jon L: Your point about Newport being the goose that lays golden eggs is true. Lots of the revenue generated there goes directly to Providence. What happens after that is not in local control. However I cannot agree with the characterization of the tools being some kind of tax-by-another-name for two reasons: first, it really does cost that much to _properly_ maintain bridges to today's standards and second, we tend to cast every issue in the form of intrigue and I think that takes too much cleverness, cooperation and work on the part of the state gov't. Like Franklin said: "Never attribute to malice that which is more easily explained by ignorance"

bigjim360

8:49 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012

lack of depth? please.....this is the state with the worst tax rate, worst business climate, highest property tax and a governor that goes on national TV and makes a total fool of himself and the state that elected him, Democrats and unions control the state so tolls on the Sakonnet bridge? sounds logical to me, pay up fools

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Chris St Peter

10:12 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012

I Wish Patch Had A "LIKE" Button.

Cheryl

10:14 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Raise revenue by dealing with overpaid and or unnecessary state patronage jobs...

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Kyle F. Hence

10:14 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

As a condition for any new tolls anywhere or toll increases, the Rhode Island Turnpike and Bridge Authority should be independently audited in a totally transparent manner by a group of esteemed accounting firms and citizen representatives.

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Clay Commons

10:14 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

The bridge must be financed. The question is, should it be financed through tolls, or through taxes? Taxes would spread the burden more broadly, and not cripple businesses and residents on on either side of the bridge. I vote for taxes.

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JimW

10:14 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Excuse my ignorance, but why is it a federal law prohibiting interstate tolls in RI, but MA,Ct,NY,NH,NJ,DE,MD, and most states towards FL toll their interstates?!? Why not ask for a 50% share of gas tax or other funding measures?
Unfortunately tolls will probably be installed and I'm sure and we will pay increased tolls through the years because RIBTA will always find shortfalls in their budget that will need our hard earned monies!
I also would like to comment on Chris about the "blue hairs". Remember 1 day you may become a senior on fixed living and you may decide that extra fees for everyday living will be something that you protest. Not all of those 27000 signatures were blue haired citizens demanding fairness.

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Westwind

5:31 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

I don't think anyone who is going to pay $2,000 additional to go to work each year thinks it's OK to put this toll in place. But if you live in Massachusetts and work on Aquidneck Island you will end up paying it. Don't know too many family's in this economy who can handle that without blinking.
It will definitely impact Aquidneck Islands economy. Middletown and Newport's beaches will loose income and that will hurt the towns but maybe I'll have a parking place when I go.

Good Year

10:14 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

All of you who insist on voting the same politicians into office over and over again get what you deserve.

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Portsmouth Citizen

1:06 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

All of the politicians who represent Portsmouth, Bristol and Tiverton opposed the toll. How is your comment relevant?

tom darby

10:14 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

a penny increase in the gas tax and a small toll (25¢ or less) toll would take care of the 10 year maintenance plan....

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Jill Giggey

10:14 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

My two cents - the biggest issue I see here is the amount of toll. I see $4 tolls as pretty steep. I lived for a long time in a State that had me driving the toll road to work which cost me about $1.60 daily (2, $.40 tolls each way) which never prevented me from working or going shopping/dining (even on the weekends) along that toll road. Without these tolls we jeopardize these vital infastructures and will have to pay other ways which could be more of an impact. Maybe a better compromise is limiting the amount of toll for those visitors to and inhabitants of beautiful Aquidneck Island using this bridge?

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Jay Miller

10:14 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

I wish the discussion, here, were more intelligent, less finger pointing and more constructive to solving a serious problem - the state's budget deficit. One of the most important concerns mentioned last night was that of the history of this state directing taxes and fees for a particular purpose and, then, those funds are used for something else - the issue of state accountability is important. For those who use the Sakonnet Bridge daily, the tolls may be directed to some other state use that forsakes the maintenance of the bridge. As you recall from last night, the director said the tolls will not be used only for the maintenance of this particular bridge.

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Westwind

5:31 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

I agree with this and we need to keep bringing it up. The income raised from these tolls will definitely be used in other areas, they have said it. What is scary is the states track record. My father for years pointed out the states lack of maintenance on the Sakonnet Bridge. I say spread the additional money needed across the state like they do with everything else, why should Aquidneck Island folks have to shoulder the whole burden. The rest of the states bridges are taken care of by everyone, why not this one bridge.

Dryheave

10:27 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Just buy a boat....then you won't have to bother with the stinkin' bridge

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MILSPECGUY

10:27 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Umm... hello who else is going to pay for repairs for the bridge you all use every day??? Let me guess Obamabridge is next?? Comon seniors... it's a different america now... no more five and dime and certainly no more free roads... Vote yes before the bridge falls down and then lawsuits start on whos fault it was to repair ....

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Portsmouth Citizen

2:19 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

Who is going to pay for the bridges and roads we use every day? All of us, just like all of us now pay for the I-Way, the Red Bridge, the Jamestown Bridge and on and on and on. None of them have tolls. There is no fair argument to stick us in the East Bay with a toll but everyone else in RI gets to have the bridges they use paid for by the general population.

Mike Moriarty

11:09 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Our elected leaders have given us plenty reasons over the years for lobbing grenades . However, we can no longer be members of the CAVE Society (Citizens Against Virtually Everything). There is a projected 6 million budget shortfall per year for each of the next 10 years. How do we close that gap? Create multiple toll rate tiers, Newport/Bristol County Resident rate, Newport/Bristol County Employee rate, RI Resident rate, New England Resident rate, Rest of the World Rate. Why are there only 2 RI EZ-Pass rate structures? I've had a New Hampshire EZ-Pass transponder for years and receive a 30% discount without a New Hampshire residency requirement. Why hasn't RIBTA negotiated a reciprocal rate with the other New England EZ-Pass states (Mass, Maine and New Hampshire). Set it up just as New York City has and place an appropriate toll on all 4 of the bridges that the public will accept. How about $1.00 each way as a starting point to study. Would that generate 6 million per year? You might recoup the project 21% loss in traffic volume and prevent a migration of traffic to the 83 year old Mt. Hope Bridge.

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Chris Christensen

11:26 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Well you all did suprise me. I expected only about 36 people to show max! I have no clue as to the total population of Bristol and Newport County, but folks 100's of people showing up is still not impressive at all. Barry needs to dig deep and find a sense of humor about aging, and I can say that as I am there and done that! This is not just a Portsmouth/Tiverton interest item. Some of you do realize that you cannot travel anywhere in that area without crossing a bridge I hope. When a bridge fails due to lack of maintenance (which does not come free) how will you get to the other side to get your Fried Whole Clams. Wake up people.

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William Childress

11:26 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

I live in Bristol and work on Cape Cod, paying $400 a month in gas as it is. As a new resident of RI and the Northeast, I have noticed that Mass has much cheaper gas than RI. I fill up in Mass instead of RI because of this and I'm sure that's why gas tax revenues are down - others do the same. You can't raise more money by adding more fees, taxes, and tolls. RI has one of the highest unemployment rates and also has the highest taxes. Think that's related? Politicians here seem to be clueless. The people who will be hurt by the toll are residents of Bristol, Tiverton, and Aquidneck who have to cross the bridge every day for work and have no other viable options. People who do not need to use it will choose not to and the businesses on Aquidneck will also be hurt.

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Stanley Martin

1:11 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Hey bill go up to 195 and save yourself the .83 cents... It's laughable all the crying going on here...

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Stanley Martin

1:11 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

You don't say the other side of the argument that if they don't put a toll there they will increase the pell bridge... HOW FAIR IS THAT TO MIDDLETOWN AND NEWPORT...

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felice

9:40 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

My husband & I have lived in R.I. all our lives and worked and paid taxes since we were 15 yrs. old.. We moved to Tiverton 16 yrs. ago.. We are seniors and live on limited income. Since the economy bottomed, we were forced to close our business last year cause lack of work. We drive less and buy our gas in Fall river,Mass. cause it's cheaper than R.I. Traveledl over the Sakonnet Bridge to visit friends & shop but if this toll goes through, will go to Horseneck area, Little Compton, etc. for recreational purposes. The real issue here is the excess spending problems which R.I. has had for many years; lack of leadership in budgeting and fingerpointing whenever this issue is raised. There is a 10.4% unemployment rate in R.I., one of the highest unemployment rates in nation, also one of the highest taxed states in the nation. My daughter can't find a job and lives in town. She has applied everywhere around this area. They are struggling to make ends meet. It's not just about senior citizens who live on fixed incomes. It's about every citizen who is financially struggling in R,I. area. Yes, the bridges needed repairing but this spending problem by our leaders for many many years has caused the problems that R.I. has to date. We keep paying this price for innefficent, irresponsible, inept government leaders who need to take the blame for deficit problems we now have in this state. Look at the whole picture. Tired of paying the price for gov't. failures!

Just Another Taxpayer

11:33 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Where are the TCC robo calls reminding Tiverton residents about tonight's meeting?

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Stanley Martin

1:11 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Even the robots know its a lost call

Joe Sousa.

12:12 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

RI doesn't have a revenue problem , it has a spending problem. The RI budget is over eight billion dollars . The budget needs to be scrutinized and priorities need to be set. Tolls are not needed here or anywhere else in the State. Don't ask why other parts of the State are not tolled. Ask why millions are wasted while our roads and bridges deteriorate. Come together and protest spending that allowed this bridge to fall apart. United we stand!

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felice

9:40 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Joe, I just wrote a comment and support your statement. I have lived in R.I. all my life and been keeping abreast of all the spending going on for years and years. Inneficient government is the problem.

Stanley Martin

1:11 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

I can't wait for these tolls to start. All the crying and whining from Portsmouth and Tiverton. Here's a suggestion, why don't we all share the expense. If you use the bridge PAY UP.... I pay my way, start paying yours...

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Portsmouth Citizen

2:19 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

Who is paying their own way on the more than 600 other bridges in this state? Why are you not clamoring for tolls on the Henderson Bridge or any of the others?

You can't compare this to the Newport Bridge. Travel between Portsmouth and Tiverton has been toll free for generations. Travel between Newport and Jamestown has NEVER been free.

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Heather Russo

10:02 am on Friday, December 7, 2012

I agree with Portsmouth citizen..I DO pay to drive over the Newport Bridge EVERYDAY...and now I will have to pay to drive over the Sakonnet River Bridge EVERDAY as well? TOLL ELSEWHERE IN RHODE ISLAND! Not all in Newport County!!! Hello? Does anyone else travel both bridges like I do everyday? Just wondering...

Elizabeth Geary

1:46 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Anyone who is in favor of the tolls I want to know if you know anyone who would like to buy my house becasue I want out of here. What if all of us refused to pay taxes? Would they put us all in jail? Who would they take over all our homes to resale? To who? The banks want to get into real Estate, bercause many will foreclose. Thinking of the politics of R.I. makes me want to throw up. I propose we have a ferry boat and screw the tolls. I am for a ferry boat vs tolls. Anyone else. Let the goverment who got themeselves in the mess with out controlled spending use the bridge. People of this area, let us put in for a ferry boat. I am all for it. A few years from now they will be crying they need more money becasue the state and all goverment is a unsatiable pig and will never have enough. The tables turned when they forgot weho pays them and who they are suppoosed to be working for, so if you have some thing to say, speak up, we need every voice.

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OldTownie

10:08 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Yeah, a ferry is going to cost less than the bridge toll. Have you lost your mind?

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felice

9:40 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Elizabeth, you took the words I've been thinking while I read all these posts. Enough cannot be said about the way our state government has operated all these years. Now the citizens have to fix it??????? When we sell our home (which is on the market), we're moving to another state right over the line.

Joe Sousa.

1:46 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

The same person with different names keeps posting these ridiculous comments. Why does patch allow this insult batter to continue to post these comments ?

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felice

9:40 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Hey Joe we're on the same page with those comments. He hides behind the veil of different sign in names. Ta ta!

Nick Avery

2:42 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

I live in Portsmouth and think that tolls to pay for the bridge is fair. I'd rather it was free, but it isn't. It has to be paid for. But how about getting creative and adding additional tolls around the state? If the state set one up on Route 4 (a state highway, not a Federal one), think of all the money they could raise from people heading down to Scarborough or Galilee in the summer. Or on Route 146 with people from the northwest corner of the state coming into Providence for work or play. All the complaining about a proposed toll not even covering expenses? Think more broadly, RITBA!

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Portsmouth Business Association

5:31 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Nick: That was one of the ideas we briefed to the Governor.

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Tom

11:26 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Imagine the influx of traffic on route 1

Elizabeth Geary

2:42 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

I say how about a ferry boat? Jamestown had one. Cheaper, no tolls, and we can get the ferry at the pier looking at the toll booths. Anyone in favor of a ferry boat? To all candidates who did not get relected you deserve what you got. You were suppoosed to be representing the peole here, not the big boys on State hill. Anyone for a ferry boat? Goodbye all voted out lazy represenastives in Portsmouth. You can go back to sleep now. You were not the voice of the people till it was to late.

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An Islander

2:42 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

"You made your bed, now lie in it."

Origin: "Back in the old days beds were made on a yearly basis and you had only one chance to do it correctly. If you took shortcuts and stuffed your mattress with low quality stuffing like grass you would sleep quite comfortably for a week or so but the grasses would soon break down and you would be lying on a very poor bed. If on the other hand you went to the effort and expense of stuffing your mattress with kapok or down or feathers you would have a very long lasting and comfortable bed to lie in."

You all stuffed the capitol with the low quality stuffing that is the Democratic party, and now you have to, quite literally, pay the consequences and live with the discomfort that your votes resulted in. Don't get me wrong...I'm against the concept of the Tolls but I'm all for them for the simple reason that every time each one of you opens your wallets to pay up, you'll remember that you voted the people in that made it all happen.

Donkeys

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Portsmouth Citizen

2:19 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

I appreciate that you have something against democrats. But every single elected official from Tiverton and Portsmouth opposed the toll, including democrats. So no, "An Inslander," we here did NOT vote in the people that made this happen.

Good Year

5:31 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Citizens make their voices heard at the voting booth. If you are dissatisfied with your government, then vote them out. Makes perfect sense, BUT in RI, we complain about our disfunctional government and vote them all back in. How many of you at the meeting voted to return your reps and senators back into office?

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Portsmouth Business Association

5:31 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

To all who commented both pro and con: Without trying to get into a lengthy discussion, the PBA believes that there is more than enough money in the state budget to accomplish adequate bridge maintenance for the four bridges. We have suggested at least ten separate ideas directly to the Governor for his consideration. Some of these ideas suggested a good hard look at expenditures and look where there is potential for fraud, waste and abuse or systemic problems that could be fixed to free up funds to dedicate to bridge maintenance. Other ideas were related to redirecting funds that go into the General Fund. Also, last night was a good first look at the direct economic impact. We believe officials should have done that homework before the introduction of Article 20 creating the East Bay Infrastructure. By the way, as we understand it, the bond indenture language for the bonds issued by RITBA will cause the Pell tolls to go up in the future regardless if there is a toll on the Sakonnet. Nonetheless, our position is that with some bold, innovative leadership, the elected officials can find the funds in house to dedicate to the four bridges without a new toll. Find more funds to spur economic development. Use this concept as a way to turn the corner regarding state spending and economic development. Put the Lieutenant Governor directly in charge of both of these efforts. Why not give this approach a try?

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Dorje Dolma

5:31 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Portsmouth has high house taxes! They have no garbage and recycle services. Portsmouth has no septic. We do however have a field house the size of a whole school and a windmill that someone supposedly put bad oil in that is costing millions to fix. Umm what? Crying whining? It's called justice. The small business deserve better treatment, the working person deserves no more pay cuts and for many this will equal a pay cut. Where are the taxes going? Why both modern exits off island. The Mount Hope bridge is too old and the people of Bristol and Warren can no longer enjoy a small town environment because those who can't pay a toll will be forced to go that way. We should not have to pay a toll, especially not an expensive one... NO TOLLS!

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OldTownie

10:08 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Check your facts. Portsmouth has one of the lower tax rates in the state.

Don't know where you got your information on the gym size, but you would be wrong about that too. And finally, no one put bad oil in the turbine, the repair cost is right around 600k, not the millions you stated.

Nice try, thanks for playing. BTW: Do you really think that Portsmouth residents care about how Bristol and Warren feel?

Nancy Hassel

5:43 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

From memory - Here are additional comments I heard at the meeting:
- The toll placement expert felt RI could not put toll booths on other eligible locations (Providence, Rt 146, RT 24 in Tiverton) because drivers could avoid the tolls by getting off the highway and taking side streets.
- I believe Philip Driscoll stated the state had not done their homework because they had not performed an economic inpact study.
- The steel infrastructures on the Pell and Mt Hope bridges require frequent painting (expensive). The Jamestown bridge was build without the steel and (from observation) little maintence has been required. The Sakonnet bridge was also built without the steel infrastructure and it is likely maintenance will also be minimized.
- People ran the numbers and concluded the toll revenue would be much greater than the funds stated as required for maintenance of the 4 bridges. What do they plan to do with the extra money?
- With a report due to the Federal Government in January it is likely that the report has been already written and these meetings are perfunctory.

There were a number of valid issues raised last night. I am concerned the public comments will not be adequately passed by RI to the Federal Reviewers.

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TECH

10:08 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

"With a report due to the Federal Government in January it is likely that the report has been already written and these meetings are perfunctory."
I agree with you Nancy. This is why every person against the toll should send an email or letter to the Federal Highway Administration. They are going to be looking at the DOT's perfunctory report, but they can also take input from average citizens. Email them at: execsecretariat.fhwa@fhwa.dot.gov
Or send them a letter at:
1200 New Jersey Ave., SE
Washington, DC 20590

TECH

10:08 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

I would also recommend that every person email David Cicilline, Sheldon Whitehouse, and Jack Reed. They aren't going to have an impact on the decision making in the state General Assembly. But they can lobby the Federal Highway Administration on our behalf to block this toll. If we had been smart enough to elect Brendan Doherty, he would have done that for us. Now we need to demand that Cicilline, Whitehouse, and Reed petition the FHA on our behalf!

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JR

10:08 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

DOT Lewis is just another dirty scumbag crook that will use the tolls to pay his bills. Its a done deal and they are just going through the motions. CROOKS CROOKS CROOKS

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Still Broke

1:00 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

Absolutely agree. Wasted plenty of people's time over the last couple of nights with this charade. If these meetings really mattered, the Governor, Senate President and House Majority leader would have been there.

maggie bulmer

10:08 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

In a taped discussion of the Sakonnet Bridge toll question Rep. Reilly, a member of the state finance committee had suggested dedicating car registration fees to bridge maintenance. Makes sense to me if the figures check out. Officials have leaped to the "easy" answer in demanding tolls.

Kyle Hense's suggestion of a thorough audit must be a requirement before any funding is levied.

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OldTownie

2:26 pm on Friday, December 7, 2012

This isn't about an "easy" answer. Registration fees would make the entire state pay for our bridge. That is not going to happen because our Reps and Senators don't have the sheer numbers needed to even get this to a vote. The rest of the state out-voted us.

Mikey

10:15 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

Here is a question, will the tolls for residents be the same as with the Newport bridge? If so $1.66 is a lot different than $8, and people posting on here are being overly dramatic.

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Bob C

10:15 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

You people love Democrats. Heck they have a bigger majority than before the election. You know the deal with Democrats- more fees, taxes, this, that; so pay up and quit whining!

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William Childress

10:15 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

For a compromise on the toll issue: how about only collect tolls in the summer? Or for residents of the area (Aquidneck, Bristol, Tiverton, Little Compton), no toll or a low monthly rate ($5 a month) no matter how many times you cross the bridge - daily, weekly, or monthly. With 83 cents each way, every day, that's adding $400 a year to the cost of daily travel to and from work. I'd much rather pay $5-10 a month than deal with that. EZ cards can be used for the same purpose and a monthly charge can be applied. Any ideas about this as a compromise?

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David Silvia

2:19 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

Id like to drop my 2cents to this, as a former truck driver, each trucking co, pays federal tax that is sopose to provide tax $ from the fule tax, each state is suppose to share this. Where is the share RI gets, Look at the truck tfc that passes thrugh RI everyday, WHERE IS THE MONEY GOVERNORX!!!!!!!! That money should be put to repair the highways and bridges as it was designed too. DAM Politians

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Isis

9:54 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012

Have you seen this, posted on the Tiverton Patch by Phil Hadley?
Is Michael Lewis the right man for the job? http://www.tollroadsnews.com/node/3479

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Bobby Oliveira

9:54 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012

For the unfortunately silly folks trying to somehow make this a Democratic issue:

All the folks who serve on the RIBTA Board were appointed by Republicans.

If Ms. Parrillo is reading: sorry I spelled your name wrong in the initial email but in the actual filing to the Supreme Court that will be corrected.

Now, I am willing to put my money where my mouth is. (Yes, I have an economic incentive for doing so.) Out of the folks who are able, who's willing to join me??

($20 from 1500 people means we get heard. $3000 from 1 person means the same thing. I'd love to see lots of small contributions from a myriad of folks)

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Kyle F. Hence

11:02 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012

Michael P. Lewis head of the Dept. of Transportation was involved in the massive overbudget (tune of billions!) Big Dig public works project in Boston. Is he the right man to have been hired to run things here in Rhode Island. Check the article out for yourself here:

http://www.tollroadsnews.com/node/3479

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nagaer40

10:02 am on Friday, December 7, 2012

All you folks that are all upset over this toll have nobody to blame but yourselves. There is no money left because the politicians neglected the bridges and roads for years. They are taking your money and giving it out as legislative grants, extremely generous social programs, 38 Studio's and the list goes on and on. Instead of holding them accountable for their failures, you voted all of them back into office. With the exception of Dan Reilly, who was one of your strongest supporters. If a toll is what it takes for the citizens to finally to their duty and vote for people who really represent their best interests then bring on the toll.

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Bobby Oliveira

12:57 pm on Friday, December 7, 2012

A couple things need to be said:

1. Representative Reilly ,lost because he sponsored a Choice related ultrasound bill. On that day he was targeted, later he would be defeated. Had he not done that, I would have been against his targeting.

2. Trying to make this a Left/Right issue is silly and counterproductive since the folks bringing you the toll are holdovers from the failed Carcieri Administration. I suggest learning the lessons of the the last election is more important than waving an impotent fist in the air.

3. Based on the way RIBTA is organized, there is no connection whatsoever between it and any other spending.

4. I am putting my money where mouth is. Instead of failed partisan points, shouldn't you be checking how much you can bring to the table??

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Good Year

2:26 pm on Friday, December 7, 2012

Who said anything about partisan politics. It just so happens that the politicians that caused this mess happen to be democrats. Not sure why Gov. Carceiri was brought into this topic. Everyone who educates themselves on RI politics know that the Governor does not have much autonomy in this state. The General Assembly holds all the power. I'm the furthest thing from a partisan, I have no use for political parties. If they were from the republican party I would make the same "throw them out" argument. People that blindly throw their support behind any politican just because they belong to a political party are doing a disservice to themselves and their fellow citizens. If one of your democrats is performing poorly you should vote them out and obviously that is not the case.

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Npt Native

3:36 pm on Friday, December 7, 2012

http://www.ri.gov/DOT/press/view.php?id=18123

Lookie here! Put a toll on this bridge and leave our bridge alone!! - oh wait, you will use the revenue from Sakonnet to pay for this bridge in Cumberland

The Rhode Island Department of Transportation (RIDOT) today announced that it will close the State-owned Manville Hill Road Bridge on the Cumberland/Lincoln line effective this afternoon. The 58-year-old bridge carries Manville Hill Road over the Blackstone River, the Blackstone River Bikeway and the Providence & Worcester Railroad.

"Based upon a recent inspection, RIDOT is closing the Manville Road Bridge today," said RIDOT Director Michael P. Lewis. "We regret any inconvenience this closure may cause the two host communities. However, safety is our first priority."

During a bridge inspection this week, engineers noted steel and bridge beam deterioration significant enough to require the Department to close the bridge. The 233-foot long bridge carries 4,300 vehicles per day.

Rehabilitation of the Manville Hill Road Bridge is under design. RIDOT is investigating options to make immediate repairs to minimize the duration of the closure. Additional repair work will be addressed through an upcoming construction contract scheduled to begin in Summer 2013.

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Bobby Oliveira

4:39 pm on Friday, December 7, 2012

Good Year,

Thank you for providing me with a teaching opportunity.

Please review the following facts:

1. Toll rates, in violation of Article V, are set solely by RIBTA.

2. The folks who do the rate setting are appointees of the Governor.

3. Currently, they were all appointed by Governor Carcieri. (Therefore, he wasn't dragged in - he's here by statute)

4.In this case, only the Governor is in play. Therefore, your statement fails.

5. The person who votes for someone supposedly "above Parties" usually votes for the useless. See John McCain.

6. If one of my Democrats is performing poorly, I go find another Democrat to challenge them. We call this process a Primary. Please see former, feels so good to type that, Reps. Menard and Brien.

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Bill

10:09 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

So you will be replacing ALL of your Democrats then? Their poor performance is what got our State to a point where $8000 per resident isn't enough to pay for critical infrastructure, thereby requiring a toll.

Joe Sousa.

4:40 pm on Friday, December 7, 2012

This is not the time to fight about the past. We need to stand together in opposition to this toll. Send those letters to Washington. Tell them how a toll will adversely effect you, your family,your business or other reasons .
Federal Highway Administration
Att.Sakonnet Bridge toll RI.
1200 New Jersey Ave., SE
Washington, DC 20590

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felice

9:40 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Joe, do you have the email name where we could send our letter of disapproval? Travels a lot faster without postage I can't afford. That just went up also~

An Islander

10:09 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

Yo silly Democrats. Toll, tax, spend, waste...why, it's the DNC way of life! Toll, tax, spend, waste, plus nepotize and corrupt...why, that's the RI way of life! You dont' like it...move. Or, start voting the other way.

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felice

9:40 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

We are moving "Islander" across state lines soon!

Portsmouth Business Association

10:09 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

Replay of Monday toll meeting on Channel 18 NCTV today at noon. Please pass the word that folks have an opportunity to see the whole meeting.

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Elizabeth Geary

10:09 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

I believe the talks at the meetings were all for show. I agree with that thought. What they will probably do is drop the rate to $2 and say, see we compromised. We want NO tolls, not lower priced toll's. We are being bullied. With high taxes and nothing for it, and they want to drain us some more. I feel teapped here and I don't like it. As a new senior who always worked and paid my taxes I find this insulting to come after the little monies I have for a nest egg. R.I. wants that, too. Can't move away, far to many houses for sale. Every one wants out, or a cleaerer path but with the elected officals this was already a done deal . Never heard much from Newport but I pray you have some sense to not relect Piava Weed. Newport seems to have removed its self from the Islands problems. To bad. We are all going to suffer. Small buisnesses take so long to gel and now when they get on thier feet, here comes a toll or another tax. The goverment thinks we are the states piggy bank. How I wish we could do more than talk and write petitions. I would like to see us hold back on our taxes. They can't put us all in jail or fine all of us. Do we have any rights here? Does not look like it. I am really stressed over this like most . Thanks Joe Sousa for the info. We will try Washington now. Thanks Joe.

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Portsmouth Business Association

1:38 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

There are several efforts underway to stop the tolls. As an individual, the best way to help stop the proposed toll is to send a letter by regular mail. Many local East Bay elected officials are on record against the tolls. However, you are welcome to write or email them.

East Bay Legislator contact info is at www.donttoll.com.

Contact info for state senators is on this page http://www.rilin.state.ri.us/Pages/Senate.aspx.

State representatives on this page http://www.rilin.state.ri.us/Pages/House.aspx.

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Portsmouth Business Association

1:38 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

Key official contact info is below:

Governor Lincoln D. Chafee
82 Smith Street
Providence, RI 02903
Phone: (401) 222-2080
governor@governor.ri.gov

Senator M. Teresa Paiva-Weed
President of the Senate
318 State House
Providence, RI 02903
401-222-6655
sen-paivaweed@rilin.state.ri.us

Representative Gordon D. Fox
Speaker of the House
82 Smith Street
Providence, RI 02903
rep-fox@rilin.state.ri.us

Mr. Michael Lewis
Director of Transportation
Rhode Island Department of Transportation
2 Capitol Hill
Providence, RI 02903
customerservice@dot.ri.gov

Mr. Buddy Croft
Executive Director
Rhode Island Turnpike and Bridge Authority
P.O. Box 437
Jamestown, RI 02835
401-423-0800
buddy@ritba.org

Daniel Berman
Rhode Island Division Administrator, USDOT/FHWA
380 Westminster Street, Suite 547
Providence, RI 02903
401-528-4560
daniel.berman@dot.gov

Federal Highway Administration
Attn: Sakonnet River Bridge in Rhode Island
1200 New Jersey Ave, SE
Washington, DC 20590
execsecretariat.fhwa@fhwa.dot.gov

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Elizabeth Geary

7:50 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012

Thank you so much for that information from the Portsmouth buissness association. I feel a little better. I am a senior retired and lived on this island 42 years. We live on so little money after we retired. We have a nest egg but if the tolls go up it will create so many problems not justfor myself but for alot of seniors. We worked paid taxes and now we get the shaft.It is really going to be hurtful for so many. My caregiver is in Fall river and so are my Dr's and family. i feel so cut off already nd that dam toll is not even here yet. Thank God for the Assosciation and all those who are out there trying to undo this ridiculous toll on the size of an over pass. Thanks for all you do for us. I am praying about this NOT to go through. It will really hurt alot of seniors and a lot of working people and just about all of us. Just not right.

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electric Mike

10:03 am on Thursday, December 13, 2012

The DOT blew money for years on cost overruns, design errors, lawsuits, duplication and insider contracts and gained a national reputation for bad roads and bridges and expensive mismanagement thereof. Now it's time for East Bay and Southeastern MA residents to bail them out?
Incedently, where is our newly re-elected Congressman Ciciline all this time. Any sign of him or his input?

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Portsmouth Business Association

4:50 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

@ electric Mike: It would take up too much space to type answers and there is some sensitive information regarding your questions. If you like, call Ray at 682-2007 and he can shed some light on that.

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Portsmouth Business Association

9:47 am on Monday, January 7, 2013

To all users of the Sakonnet River Bridge, and all those 37,000 people who took the time to sign our NO TOLL Petition; please pass this information to all your friends, relatives, neighbors, and fellow workers.

The various groups working to stop the proposed the toll are working behind the scenes closely with the East Bay state senators and representatives.

Senator Felag and Representative Edwards have introduced bills and are in the process of getting signatures. Almost all of the East Bay elected officials have signed the bills. We will not know who has not signed those bills until January 20th.

Once we do, we ask that if you know state senators or representatives on the mainland, is to ask them for their support for the bill repealing Article 20. We will get more information to you as soon as we can.

One key point for the elected folks on the mainland is that any toll is bad for the local economy and will have a spillover effect on the state economy and employment. We cannot afford to put up a toll in this state at all, anywhere. Secondly, money can be found within the $8.1 billion dollar state budget for bridge maintenance.

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Portsmouth Business Association

9:47 am on Monday, January 7, 2013

With enough support, the bills will go to committee and then possibly to hearings. Once we have details on the hearings, we are planning on having busses available for folks to testify at the hearings on Capitol Hill. We will need two more performances like December 3rd and December 4th.

We encourage folks to continue to write letters to the editor. We encourage business owners to capture empirical data on how a toll will specifically affect your business. We ask that you bring this information to the hearings, once they are scheduled.

Finally, we can continue to ask Senator Whitehouse for his support. He sits on the Transportation Committee. His Chief of Staff in Washington, DC is Sam Goodstein. Sam’s number is 202-224-2921. Call them and tell him that the economic and social impact studies that are required for the Federal Environmental Impact Statement were horribly inadequate.

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