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Biz Owners Slam Governor Over Bridge Tolls [VIDEO]

Gov. Lincoln Chafee heard dozens of protests against bridge tolls Thursday at Town Hall, but referred most questions to DOT Director Michael Lewis.

 

If there was one thing clear from Gov. Lincoln Chafee's visit to Portsmouth, small business owners are far from happy. 

"Between the toll and the sales tax, you're putting me out of business," said business owner Jeff Phelan to the governor. 

Phelan, who owns and operates Leisure Limousine, parked one of his vehicles outside Town Hall with a large "no toll" sign. Phelan wasn't alone. At least a dozen demonstrators held signs and waited for the governor's arrival early Thursday morning. 

Chafee held the community forum to hear from local small businesses and to "discuss ways to help them succeed, grow the economy, and create jobs for Rhode Islanders." Instead, Chafee heard from one resident after another, many of them being business owners, about how bridge tolls on the new Sakonnet River Bridge will hurt Aquidneck Island's economy. 

"We're tired of being the ATM machine for Providence," said Portsmouth resident Kathleen Melvin to the governor. 

"You can't do this to businesses," said Portsmouth Town Councilor Judi Staven. At least one Portsmouth business has moved due to the proposed bridge tolls. 

While Gov. Chafee said he understood "there is a lot of anger," he referred most questions to Department of Transportation (DOT) Director Michael Lewis. 

"We're doing the best we can," Chafee said. "There is a lot of anger. The economy is bad. I understand. There's a lot of anger out there. Let's just be smart and not let that anger make bad decisions." 

Lewis said an environmental impact (including economic) study will be conducted this fall. "The rate of the tolls have an affect on traffic, diversion...What are the economic impacts of tolls on both sides of the river...That will influence how the toll rate is established," he said. 

Lewis says there's a need for a permanent revenue stream to maintain bridges.

"If we can't invest in them (the state's other bridges), they will go the way of the Sakonnet River Bridge," he said. 

The governor also directed residents to speak with legislators in attendance, including Reps. Dan Gordon, Dan Reilly, John Edwards, Raymond Gallison and Senator Chris Ottiano.

He waved a hand and interrupted when Dennis Canario, who is running for state represenative, began to speak. After the audience yelled, "let him speak," Canario was allowed to voice his opposition to bridge tolls. 

Chafee did not allow a last-minute question from Portsmouth Town Councilor Jim Seveney, who is also running for re-election. 

Related Topics: Bridge Tolls, Portsmouth Business Association, Sakonnet River Bridge, Sakonnet River Bridge Tolls, and election 2012

Chris Carceller

2:19 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

did anyone ask Gov. Chafee why they didn't put a toll on the new bridge in Providence? Why do the bridges to Aquidneck Island have to pay for ALL the roads/bridges throughout the state?

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J. Lane McMahon

2:24 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Because the "new" bridge is connected to an interstate. Federal approval is needed.

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J. Lane McMahon

8:38 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

The I-Way is part of 195. Which is part of the Federal interstate system.

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Robert E

5:32 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

The Sakonnet though not part of the interstate highway system was built using federal money therefor will also require federal approval.

Chris Carceller

3:01 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

seems many other states get Federal approval to toll an interstate (I travel often and pay in NY, NH, NJ, etc).

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J. Lane McMahon

7:06 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Many other states do not get permission. There were two or three tolling permits available this past cycle. We lost out.

Joe Sousa.

6:36 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012

We shouldn't be asking for tolls anywhere . Our Reps. support for the toll on 95 lost us the support of the reps. in those towns when they voted for the toll on the Sakonnet . No tolls any where is the answer. Use the Gas tax and quite giving free rides on RIPTA.

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Robert Crane

8:38 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

I think this toll is stupid, but, the free rides on RIPTA do not pay for toll maintenance. What is your plan. Show me the numbers.

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Robert Perry

3:39 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

you are truly a mindless troll if you think helping the disabled or protecting the populous from unsafe ozone is even part of this discusion. 83 cents, thats all RI resident are being asked to pay to maintain an infrastructure we need. And your answer is punish those who can least afford it so you can rev your big bike and wake up riverside drive at will, drive away let the grownups talk.

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Robert Perry

3:46 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

so you just form our opinions for us ms mgee, or is troll now considered profanity-get out of the way and let the discusion go where it will, or your just big brother in drag.

George Wardwell

6:33 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

With all due respect to the conversations, has anyone thought of where the maintenance funds will come from in outyears? There are so many bridges that have gone with little or no maintenance over many years because the revenue targeted for those projects were directed to other departments. Until we use restricted funds to fund construction and maintenance cost, this will be unresolved forever. Either you raise taxes or use tolls as a method of supporting the bridges so lets decide the most fair and equitable manner in which we pay for it. No one wants taxes, no one wants tolls but the bills keep rolling in!

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TD

8:10 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Some of tried to explain that fact, George, and we have labeled traitors and "encouraged" to leave.

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Robert Crane

8:34 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

Part of the reason for the rush for the new bridge was the weight limit and how it would steer so many large trucks through Bristol and Warren. Um, so now we put a TOLL on the same bridge - lets keep cars off it too.

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Artie Denman

11:07 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

George there are other creative ways to receive more tax revenue. Like put a healthy tax on those multi million dollar yachts parked in Newport Harbor and owned by corporations who write off the expenses of ownership and operating costs and pass it off to the working stiff! I think that if you checked with Fenway Park, corporations also buy large lots of choice seats and classify them as entertainment expenses and make the guy seated in the bleachers pay for them on April 15th. You need leadership in the state who protects the elderly who cross bridges on the Island to see their doctors.

Joe Sousa.

9:18 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

The State of RI will spend $8 billion dollars this year. We don't have a revenue problem . We have a spending problem. Take the money out of the bloated budgets we continue to increase

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Former Ports resident

9:49 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

So true Joe. Normal people have to figure out ways to cut costs and do without. This state is all about just ripping extra dollars from people's pockets. Rich people make the greatest politicians as they just replace asking daddy for money with taking from people who actually work.

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Artie Denman

10:53 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

I think Mr Chafee needs to be remembered for "passing the buck" when you go to vote. Harry Truman had a small plaque on his desk in the oval office which stated "The Buck Stops Here"!
Artie Denman

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Elizabeth Geary

11:33 am on Friday, August 24, 2012

I am curious how this will effect the real estate here? With places going out of buiness, people out of work, and vacant stores, where do we go from here? I did never believe Chaffee was going to be there for us. Remember him when we vote, along with Piava Weed. Where do we go from here?

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getreal

1:27 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

Paiva Weed sold out the island for her few little perks from the State ($$$ for x-mas in Newport etc.) When Newport sees the decrease in dollsrs I hope they remember who voted for this... I will no longer patronize Newport for this betrayal of the rest of Newport County.

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J. Lane McMahon

5:19 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

No Mark,
What he is saying is that the cost of maintaining the 4 "big" bridges should be on everyone's shoulders. Should our tax dollars (Newport County) be used for the soon to be built bridge in Wickford? How about road work in Providence and Warwick? We help pay for everyones roads, but not everyone helps pay for our bridges.

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Robert E

11:55 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

The $360,000 grant will be used construct a single span buried arch bridge on Arcadia road over Roaring Brook in Exeter. RIDOT will use an innovative inflatable composite-concrete arch bridge technology that could reduce construction time and costs, double the bridge’s lifespan, and reduce maintenance costs.

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Robert E

11:58 pm on Friday, August 24, 2012

PROVIDENCE, R.I. (WPRI) - If you like riding the commuter rail from Warwick to Boston, enjoy it while it lasts. Your options will be shrinking soon.
The MBTA is facing a serious revenue shortfall, and is planning to increase fares and/or cut back on service on many lines, including the Providence/Stoughton line, which provides commuter rail service to Providence -- and, since opening in October 2010, the InterLink transportation hub serving T.F. Green Airport.
The InterLink facility cost $267 million to build, and has won regional awards for its design

Robert E

12:14 am on Saturday, August 25, 2012

The state needs Two million per year to maintain the sakonnet. A 1cent increase in the gas tax would raise $5 million per year more then enough to fund maintence on the new bridge.

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getreal

8:04 am on Saturday, August 25, 2012

Mark, the Sakonnett River Bridge is small compared to the other bridges. Half of the by passes and exit and entrance ramps on the new I-95 are actually longer and of similar construction minus the several piers in the water...Another toll in Newport County is a sell out by Paiva Weed and I am positive will hurt Newport....

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getreal

3:48 pm on Saturday, August 25, 2012

That is the great thing about this country we agree to disagree ..Paiva Weed is not a "good neighbor" to Newport County ....This WILL have an impact on Newport just like the rest of the county!

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FYI

5:46 pm on Saturday, August 25, 2012

By putting a toll on the Sakonnett River Bridge, Little Compton & Tiverton really do become part of MA. This is their ONLY link to RI and you can not say this about any other part of the state, meaning people are “cut off” from the rest of their state & need to pay in order to stay within their state. Is there ANY other part of our county, let alone our state, like this? Also, no one has mentioned about the SAFETY of Common Fence Point & Island Park during “mandatory” evacuations. People here have this requirement for a category 1 HURRICANE! Actually for “Tropical Storm” Irene last year, a mandatory evacuation was put in place for these 2 areas!! I remember hearing when “they” (the powers to be) wanted to eliminate exit 3 onto Route 24. Luckily they can NOT because of this exit being an evacuation route. Where are all the lawyers on Aquidneck Island? Can no one find a “loop hole” like when they tried to eliminate exit 3? I’m all for maintence & up keep, but not at the expense of 1 county. According to the Interstate Highway System, Route 24 is part of the interstate infrastructure and is considered a “freeway”. Hence the word “FREE” – WAY!!

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Elizabeth Geary

11:23 am on Wednesday, August 29, 2012

Did I misss something or did this just go away? I don't hear anything. All silence. What is going to happen next? I agree, can't we get a lawyer or something? Ya know our reps knew this and did nothing till we got them to "do something". So where do we stand now? What is the latest? Everyone is silent. Are we in mounring? Where do we go from here? What's up??????

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Zippy

11:51 pm on Wednesday, August 29, 2012

How about finishing rt24 and make it a federal highway? If 24 were a straight shot to 95 in south county, what would that do to the economic value of Aquidneck Island and South County? Were our 1960's forefathers wrong? A simple look at a map, South County and Aquidneck Island economic measures, or even East and West Main casualties and fatalities might give a clue to an answer........of course, the first order of business would be to fix eminent domain laws; otherwise infrastructure will be placed for the good of the few to the detriment of the many (see Newport and new Sakonnett bridge placements).

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Ralph Mace

12:28 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Amid the back and forth, I may have missed anyone questioning why, in a state that has substantial fuel taxes and road use fees, there is a need for a "revenue stream" to deal with bridge maintenance.

As one critic put it, Aquidneck Island has, for some time, been viewed as a source of funds to support the failed administrations of cities like Providence and to fund overly generous social programs. So there is nothing left and the state now needs to suck more money out of the pockets of Island residents.

And how does our Governor react? He claims that he understands that people are angry, but his only proposal to date is the toll on the new Sakonnet bridge...after all he doesn't want to make hasty decisions inn anger that might have a negative impact on the economy. Congrats to all of you that voted for this fool. Trouble is, we now have to live with YOUR mistake.

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TD

12:44 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Only 34% of us (me not included) voted for him, most of us didnt.
The state is broke, RIDOT doesnt fix or maintain bridges because those funds are sucked out of RIDOT to be spent on more "pressing" line items (e.g. 38 Studios). If the new bridge isnt maintained by RIBTA, it will collapse into the river like its older sibling. So to fund the maintenance, either have to raise the Pell toll, or add the new toll.
That should get you up to speed Ralph.

Jim L

10:17 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012

It is my understanding that with the materails, used to consruct this new bridge it shouldn't need any or very little maintaince for the first 10 years of it's life, so if tolls go on next year as planned then,tolls making say 15 million a year means that 150 million dollars will be going into RIBTA with out the need to spend one penny on this new bridge. Vote the clowns that voted yes on the BUDGET out sure they vote no on the tolls, but if they had voted no on the budget, till the toll were removed we wouldn't be here, and at the least sent Brendon Doherty to congress and not the guy who left the capitol city in such great shape that upstate reps are trying to steal Newport county blind to pay for their doings!! NO TOLLS

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Robert E

1:05 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Thats funny the state said the Annual maintenance cost was $2 million a year. The pro toll people said why should taxpayers pay for this bridge if they are not using it the people using it should pay for it but why am I paying for 3 bridges I am not using?

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J. Lane McMahon

3:18 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012

2 million for the new bridge, 7+ for all the bridges.

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J. Lane McMahon

3:21 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012

And Jim L, I don't know where you got your information but the Director of DOT clearly stated that the new bridge would need maint. from the day it opens. In 25 years of construction, I have never heard of anything that doesn't need maint for the first ten years. Also your 15 million a year number makes no sense. Do you mean the Sakonnet and Newport bridge tolls?

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TD

4:06 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Mark D,

You make complete sense and I agree with you on every count. The only issue that I believe remains and is worth fighting for, is that the GA has also mandated RIBTA to pay for East Bay road maintenance from the collected tolls. So either East Bay gas stations should have a reduction in taxes to remove, essentially, a double tax, or we better have the best darn roads in the state.

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