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Wind Turbine Update

October 9th Tuesday the town will be giving a wind turbine update . Let's hope the Seattle ,Washington engineering report will be made public at the Portsmouth Town Council Meeting . It's been four months since the official break down of the turbine on June 15th. The turbine has been plagued with problems over the short three year life of the turbine !

The turbine cost three million dollars which equates to one million dollars a year ! A complete financial fiasco!

Someone needs to step up to the plate and explain how all these "mistakes" were made buying this turbine and why it didn't last twenty years !

The town needs to review the setback to the town water tank and the current wind turbine. The company that sold the turbine to the town also prepared the report that said the turbine would not land on the water tank ! Maybe it's time for a third party vendor to review the safety of the turbine location and the town water supply ?

 

George Kassis

10:25 am on Monday, October 8, 2012

The above is not a "Wind Turbine Update" but rather a political statement by the author. It would have been more appropirate to see and read the report before passing judgement.

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Bill Carson

11:16 am on Monday, October 8, 2012

During July and August of this year the town has given all the wind turbine information from short life of the three year old -three million dollar wind turbine fiasco to an engineer to find out why the turbine failed and what to do about it.

The engineer from Seattle Washington has prepared a report about the wind turbine . The same engineer is one of three nataionally known engineers who has experience in the dirty little secret the wind industry has been hiding about the gear box failures in these turbines .

It would be more appropirate for the town to produce the report so people can pass judgement ! The report was done by the engineer at no cost to the town .The town council was promised the report by the middle of September . Why can't the report be made public and posted on line ? It's been since June 15 th the turbine offically broke down ! Why is it taking four months to find out what happened ?

I think pushing that reset button every 6 to 8 hours over a long period of time and not calling the maintenance company has a lot to do with the degree of damage to the wind turbine .

Let's stop the politics and see the report ! It's been 4 months ! Let's pass judgement ! What mistakes were made with the purchase on the turbine !

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Bill Carson

11:16 am on Monday, October 8, 2012

During July and August of this year the town has given all the wind turbine information from short life of the three year old -three million dollar wind turbine fiasco to an engineer to find out why the turbine failed and what to do about it.

The engineer from Seattle Washington has prepared a report about the wind turbine . The same engineer is one of three nataionally known engineers who has experience in the dirty little secret the wind industry has been hiding about the gear box failures in these turbines .

It would be more appropirate for the town to produce the report so people can pass judgement ! The report was done by the engineer at no cost to the town .The town council was promised the report by the middle of September . Why can't the report be made public and posted on line ? It's been since June 15 th the turbine offically broke down ! Why is it taking four months to find out what happened ?

I think pushing that reset button every 6 to 8 hours over a long period of time and not calling the maintenance company has a lot to do with the degree of damage to the wind turbine .

Let's stop the politics and see the report ! It's been 4 months ! Let's pass judgement ! What mistakes were made with the purchase on the turbine !
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OldTownie

1:01 pm on Monday, October 8, 2012

To the liar Bill Carson:

How can all this information about the wind industry's dirty little secret be available since 2004 when you yourself claim that only three nationally known engineers have experience with it? Why don't you stop lying? The report was only completed 2 weeks ago. Tell Paul Kesson and Judy Staven, your "sources" that Nov. 6th is coming quickly.

Bill Carson

2:17 pm on Monday, October 8, 2012

As of May 2007 the wind industry was well aware of gearbox problems for over the past twenty years. Anyone that did a feasibility study for the Portsmouth wind turbine should have made all the residents ,PEDC and the Portsmouth Town Council aware of the gearbox issues. Someone dropped the ball here ! The town failed to listen to anyone opposed to the "wind turbine fiasco"

http://www.nrel.gov/wind/pdfs/41548.pdf

"The wind energy industry has experienced high gearbox failure rates from its inception [1]. Early wind turbine designs were fraught with fundamental gearbox design errors compounded by consistent under-estimation of the operating loads. The industry has learned from these problems over the past two decades with wind turbine manufacturers, gear designers, bearing manufacturers, consultants, and lubrication engineers all working together to improve load prediction, design, fabrication, and operation. This collaboration has resulted in internationally recognized gearbox wind turbine design standards"

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Bill Carson

2:25 pm on Monday, October 8, 2012

Gear Box Failures in 1999. The wind industry has been well aware of gearbox problems for over twenty years . Why didn't the Town of Portsmouth become aware of premature breakdowns of these turbines ? Because they made a mistake !

Here's the pdf from 1999
http://windpower.sandia.gov/2006reliability/tuesday/14-brianmcniff.pdf
• 1999, revised AGMA/ AWEA 921, which became
ANSI/AGMA/AWEA 6006 (2004),
• operating experience WTG 50 m,
• speeds to 25 to 30 rpm
• gearbox ratios from 60 to 73.
• 2 MW turbines in early development stage
• Bearing failures continued to be serious
problems in some units
• gear tooth failures due to the calculable failure
modes had practically disappeared from the
newer turbines.

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Bill Carson

12:39 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

The wind turbine was a gamble from day one. The wind turbine company was a venture capitalist start up company that had never built a wind turbine before. The company was financed by off shore boutique banks that specialize in commercial wind turbine projects. The company had already changed its name twice before the Town of Portsmouth approached the company.The town went forward buying a turbine at what they thought was a thirty percent sale price.

The project was clearly a high risk gamble using a bond approved by taxpayers. The wind company had NO past history and was a poor choice .

Once the turbine was turned over to the town after a lawsuit over the construction of the base of the wind turbine the troubles began. The town conducted tours of the wind turbine saying it made as much as $400,000.00 in the first two years of operation. Today the taxpayers are looking at a loss of at least 2 million to pay off the remaining bond payments.

The town now continues to look for contractors to take over the wind turbine .The question now is : How deep is the hook into the town? How much longer will the town be taken by the ongoing bunco scheme of commercial wind ? Do you really believe a newer larger wind turbine is better than what is already there ? How many times to you get taken before you give up ?

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William F Horan

10:28 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Adult supervision required at the RI GA! Please end this madness now.
Yes, the failed Portsmouth wind turbine generator, RI GA EDC EBEC still advancing ponzi scheme, Deep Water Wind requiring mega millions yet to be quantified. All of the above equates to economic terrorism of both the tax payer and the utility rate payer, for many years to come..With out a continuations oversight and monitoring for conformance to viability and regulation by The RI PUC (our only qualified utility regulator) this will continue as a amateur hour resulting in costly failures. The very questionable viability for all of these projects is self evident. One need look no further than the failed European so called alternate green energy economic destruction..
We will have destroyed the Predictability, reliability and affordability for the greater RI especially electrical energy production along with destruction of the companion public utility industry. The RI General Assembly failure to heed the professional analysis and recommendation concerning these projects is unwise.

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Bill Carson

11:25 am on Wednesday, October 10, 2012

This is about giving taxpayer money to individual venture businesses! The town is playing the part of venture capitalist at the expense of taxpayer . The wind turbine was a three million dollar high risk project funded with offshore boutique renewable energy investment companies.The town continues to blow millions of taxpayer dollars on a bad idea.

The town appears to be hooked by the ponzi scheme investing more bad money .

One only needs to look at what happened in Greece .The Greek government has the most commercial wind turbines in the world .They thought the turbines would make them lots of money . Over 3000 Greek commercial wind turbines are breaking down and need replacement . What happened in Greece is what's going to happen here ! The commercial turbines are not economically feasible !

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John ("Anything But Sue")

7:26 pm on Wednesday, October 10, 2012

Bill Carson is intent in keeping his various blogs At The TOP. I'm here to help. SO: BILL: What happened at last nights Portsmouth Town Meeting...?? Where is the Wind Turbine REPORT you said would be presented in many of your previous posts......??? Just wondering.

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William F Horan

6:56 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

John - The Newport Daily News has already answered your question in the announcement of a scheduled 3 hour meeting prior to the election where information will be presented as to the choices available and the companion data that provides the tax payers and rate payers (state wide) the bases to realize an informed decision. I havce appreciated the information from Bill Carson vantage point as one of many that must be very carefully considered and factored into the ultimate conclusion to this unfortunate situation. Yes, today looking more like a classic text book group think. Yes, everyone owns the mistake of yesterday and now the challenge for today is to be capable of learning from that error so that tomorrow we will not repeated an exercise in an over dimensioned set of conditions with an undesirable outcome. .We must recognize the contributions made by well intended individuals and the community as a whole. Specifically the energy market and the viable solutions and disruptive technologies will continue to challenge us for generations. In our quest we must not subscribe to a pseudo political cult of true believers based on counterfeit agendas. The journey must and will continue with all a little wiser from the experience. Today our defective national energy policy and companion RI GA state missteps must be reformed as a first order of business. The robber barons and their costly kluge solutions must be dismissed.

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John ("Anything But Sue")

7:15 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

William F:: Why would you respond to my same post TWICE..in TWO different threads.... Verbatum..?? You are starting to Sound like..If not LOOK Like...BILL. Just an observation on my part

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Bill Carson

7:46 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

The Town of Portsmouth has been reviewing two options for the wind turbine since June 15,2012. The options are repair the turbine or go into business with private wind turbine contractors. The third option has never been discussed .The third option is the correct option.

The repairs to the turbine could result in another duplicate failure of the gear box in a short period of time. Should the town spend $600,000.00 or more every three years to repair the turbine ? NO

The Portsmouth Town Council is holding a special meeting on Tuesday, Oct. 23.

The third option should be presented to the public and that option is take down the turbine and pursue some other financially responsible form of renewable energy other than commercial wind.

The Oct 23 special meeting should have all the information including the Seattle, Washington engineering report

John ("Anything But Sue")

7:59 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

BILL: You and WILLIAM F. are the same person..NO..????

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Bill Carson

8:29 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

John , The goal here is to educate the public on commercial wind. The PEDC through no fault of their own failed "Due Diligence" to the pubilc over the wind turbine. They failed to educate themselves and the public .The proof is a broken three million dollar turbine !

Members of the PEDC were taken in by the wind industry . What's going on in Portsmouth already happened in Princeton,Massachusetts and all over the world.

Your only looking at the positive side of commercial wind . The information supplied to the PEDC for wind turbine feasability only contained positive information . The down side of the turbines is that its a social program built like an airplane game or ponzi scheme. In the end the turbine breaks down and everyone starts to point fingers . The PEDC members are resigning because of the embarrassing position the wind turbine advocates put them in !

This is going on all over the country . Watch this video why were all these facts kept from the PEDC :

Trailer for movie Windfall
http://firstrunfeatures.com/trailers_windfall.html

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